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[–] [email protected] 149 points 8 months ago (19 children)

We don't know what Biden is saying behind closed doors, but I'd be willing to bet my left nut that he's really angry at Netanyahu.

Bibi knows he would get full support to wipe out Gaza from Trump.

Biden is still trying to help within a certain frame by sending aid and asking Netanyahu to stop killing civilians. But that's only as much as he can do without completely pulling all funding, weapons and ammo. But there's risks associated to that. Especially with the threat of Iran in the middle East. He doesn't want to lose the support of one of the only allies, if not the only one, in the region.

The whole thing is very complex. There's lots of things at play here and it's all a bunch of shades of gray. Nothing is black and white.

However, there's only one thing that's really important here. Trump must lose. A Trump win would be devastating for world peace. I don't think Americans understand enough how much their country is a central pillar for world peace. The Gaza genocide could be nothing compared to the world wide cluster fuck we could be in if Trump wins.

So get your heads out of your asses, swallow your fucking pride and do the world a fucking favor by voting for the only candidate who still has a chance at not bringing a third, and possibly ultimate, world war.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

I wish more people understood you some deescalate by screaming we're going to kick your ass and force you to stop. That is unless you all want the US fighting on a third front and are willing to eat that cost.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

For real - Trump would have sent whole squadrons of B-52s to carpet bomb Gaza without warning or allowance for any civilian evacuation.

I voted uncommitted in my primary on Tuesday. But I am sure as shit voting for the Democratic nominee, whoever it turns out to be, but realistically, it’s going to be Biden.

I understand precisely how central the US is to world stability at large. I’m not trying to claim the US is perfect, or unambiguously good - we have absolutely done a lot of shitty things over the years. I will assert that the world would likely be a lot more dangerous in a holistic sense if it weren’t for the US’s post-WW2 leadership in the western hemisphere.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yes all of this. And also, even if Palestine was in no way on the ballot in November, that doesn't mean it's not worth it to vote for the guy who is much better in all the ways that are on the ballot

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (6 children)

This post is the most accurate portrayal of the situation I think I've seen. I'd greatly question someone's moral compass if they liked Biden or approved of his presidency. Whenever this gets discussed, a bunch of status quo warriors pop out of wells to say "Trump is worse." Like, no shit.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The way they talk, Biden is the greatest thing ever.

I dont care that they have to vote for him to avoid Trump, that sucks but i get it.

But I cannot tolerate the maga cult levels of delusion they use to support him. Just admit hes shit and that all he offers is not being Trump, at least that shows a sign that maybe you would at least want to fix the system after the election.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Yeah, it's really sus behavior. The people who are especially baffling are those who post long laundry lists of Biden's supposed accomplishments, as this in any way excuses things like committing genocide or imprisoning refugees in concentration camps.

I'm sure John Wayne Gacy was a fine party clown, but this typically isn't considered to excuse his other endeavors.

So yeah, I've been totally disillusioned of the idea that Democrats aren't cultlike. Both parties over here treating politics like a team sport, and meanwhile people are dying for no good reason at all.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

thank you! fully agree. i’m slowly getting a handle on this rhetoric posting thing 🙃

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

You're doing great!

If you ever want to post something without dealing with all the bad takes and genocide deniers, come post on [email protected]

I created it more or less to keep myself out of pointless arguments lol

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

i did so please let me post my political shitposts in peace please :)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Some political shitposts, as a treat if you will

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