Not pictured: a giant hand holding the lever flipper in place, forcing their participation and complicity in one major candidates genocidal intentions over another.
There’s always time to walk away from omelas.
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Godfuckingdamnit. This is syntax class all over again, isn't it? It's damn obvious, but there's some people who did actually need to solve the trolley problem, and still didn't.
I just want to point out a thing said in this, that I have seen said hundreds of other times, which is not correct.
Due to the spoiler effect, a leftist vote for a third party candidate is essentially a vote for trump
This is incorrect, most charitably interpreted as an exaggeration, but it is said so often I think people are misunderstanding the spoiler effect.
The spoiler effect is real and it can suppress a victory of not-as-bad candidates if they have a popular opposition, but it is never as bad as "essentially voting for trump". It is equivalent to not voting at all, at worst.
And it is also a simplification of the situation to imply that the spoiler effect only affects democrats. There is a similar thing going on with conservative third parties.
But if I'm a leftist, wouldn't I rather any candidate win over the furthest right one?
Obviously I'd want a leftist to be the president, but US politics doesn't work outside of the binary. I voted third party in 2016 and regretted it a lot.
That's the basis of what the spoiler effect is and why it's a problem to consider, yeah.
I just think it is better to be clear about how it works and what it means. Non-voting and third party votes being described as explicit support for trump has some troubling implications.
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It is equivalent to not voting at all, at worst.
And this only because some places won't count your votes if the difference isn't big enough to swing the election. This ought to be illegal, but it isn't.
eh, you're still effectively supporting trump by not voting for the party that can actually win instead.
It's not as bad as voting for trump, but it's still giving him a better shot at winning than he would have if you voted for biden
you know what, you are absolutely correct and i would have the same criticism about this post if i saw someone else post it.
i think my mind slipped when i was putting it together and typed words that meant more than i did. my fault.
ill make an effort to fix this.
More Trump propaganda on Lemmy I see.
lol
This is the opposite?
Honestly the Trolley Problem is a perfect representation of this issue. All leftists in America are being asked to either personally hold a part in a genocide, or to personally abstain and allow greater horrors to be unleashed (including the genocide).
Or vote for a better alternative. I urge everybody to check out Jill Stein or Cornel West. Either one would be a much better president than Trump or Biden.
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I feel like if it really mapped so cleanly onto the trolley problem, there wouldn't need to be 4 paragraphs of text included throughout the meme in an attempt to head off any arguments...
This just goes to show how convoluted Democrat "logic" becomes. They have to do all of these mental gymnastics instead of simply just voting for the Green Party. I'm so glad I'm not a Democrat.
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The general election vote itself is the trolley problem, the paragraphs are detailing other solutions beyond simple voting to try and get out of the trolley problem.
Primary season is almost over, your chances of getting this done is narrowing.
excellent it’s almost over with 😅 hoping biden responds well