We're trying to reduce the numbers of hours a person has to work.
We talk about the end of paid work being mandatory for survival.
Partnerships:
/join #antiwork)Probably could have stopped at “ultra wealthy”.
If you’re well positioned enough to have made yourself ultra-wealthy, you’re probably in a position to be calling some of the shots and can dictate when and where you’ll be. Doesn’t matter which generation it is.
Gen X here. I am, indeed, irreplaceable. I have multiple conversations in a week about contract to hire, or other nonsense, in a week. I know what I'm about, I know what I can do, and I will not stand for this kind of stupidity in hiring.
I am more effective working at home. I have been doing it for 10 years now.
You do not want me in your office. My jibes are too much for the boomers.
To wit, leave me alone, I just want to quietly do my job, and I don't need you blathering about it in my ear.
Well can you at least uncover your camera? We really want to at least see you. Please?
When they ask me to go on camera I just tell them "but I'm ugly today"
I agree with OP's comments but the article, not so much. Like OP the Gen Xers I know that are close to retirement with their financial ducks in a row do not prefer to be in the office. Being irreplaceable means you have the leverage to successfully negotiate a WFH arrangement.
GenX here. I'm getting my ducks in a row to early retire if I want. I'm not ultra wealthy by any means. Just saved and invested back when that was easier for worker bees to do. I'll work another year or two, but it's nice knowing I can walk.
I'm also hard to replace. I feel sorry for the poor person who gets stuck with my job.
I like my younger coworkers. They are funny and smart. The boomer bosses, not so much. The boomers ask us for shit, we make it happen, and then they take all the credit for it. Anything that goes wrong they blame it on us, of course.
I was going to force the RTW issue since I loved working from home, but they actually ponied up a shitload of money, and well, I love money more. Hopefully it doesn’t mess with my work/life balance too much.
I’m a xenial with a tech job and have reached irreplaceable status. I’m very fortunate to have been able to give the RTW ultimatum. I can assure you that I am anything but wealthy, let alone ultra wealthy.
I simply have a job that allows me to work from home, and I have a unique skill set. For which I am extremely grateful.
It me, though ultra-wealthy is a disingenuous choice of words: unless you can live off of your capital alone, you’re not ultra-wealthy.
It’s just more shifting the goalposts.
By lowering the bar on what “wealthy” is, it starts targeting those chanting “eat the rich” at each other.
Timmy the Zer sees Dave the Xer with a house and car and equates that with wealth and starts blasting. While the actual wealthy hide away in their riches and are left alone.
Right? I'm just sitting here like "I got $1000 in the bank, a nice job that lets me travel, living comfortably within my means; we're all in the same metaphorical boat."
At least they didn't call them middle-class.
I am an elder zoomer who prefers the office to have work life separation and to socialize because I am lonely and don't live where I was born to have an established social net.
How are you all so wrapped up in fake generational war ?? What the fuck , you’re all mental.
I agree that the generational mud slinging is a waste of energy and meant to distract. The entire narrative around generational divide is created and pushed by corporate media. It's the same story over and over, sow a social divide and keep the "have nots" infighting while the "haves" rob us blind. And the significant majority of us are not in the latter group and never will be no matter how much we fund our 401k and save.
Generations in this context are being used as shorthand for age demographics.
Is there anything that's more obviously a "divide and conquer" tactic than all this unhinged generational bullshit? I'm gen x, and I've got more in common with my poor millennial and gen z neighbors than I do with some rich fuck my own age.
And the "ultra wealthy" reference in this article is laughable. The ultra wealthy have always done whatever tf they want while the rest of us suffer.
This article is just "young people don't want to work anymore" in a fake nose and glasses.
The generational divide is real in a way because different generations had different possibilities financially.
A few years back you could get cheap loans now you cannot. If you finished university after 08 you could not get a job that paid the same as before or at all etc. These are ups and downs in the market of course but things put you on a trajectory.
I don't know if I will ever own anything and it does not look better for future generations.
Yeah, true. Thanks to investors and the fact that we treat housing like a commodity that can be bought and sold, it was inevitable.
The only reason I was able to buy a house was because I live in bumfuck, South Dakota, I have a husband who applied for the loans along with me, and we got on two programs. But that was in 2019, and it's gotten worse since then, even here.
But yeah, I do understand what you're saying. I just think the blanket statements about entire generations are wack. They called us Gen Xers "slackers" in the 90s and said we didn't want to leave our parents basements, etc. -- they say the same shit about every generation, and it's like we get amnesia about it every time. It's so ignorant when I hear people my age say the exact same things about Gen Z and millenials that they said about us.
Is there anything that's more obviously a "divide and conquer" tactic than all this unhinged generational bullshit?
It’s insane but effective. A friend who is 25 years younger than me angrily called me a Boomer because my husband and I bought a house in 2020, which means we had advantages that he didn’t get.
It was our first house, in rough shape, and it was through a VA loan. Every repair was DIY. Meanwhile, the guy who called me a Boomer inherited his house and massive acreage. Also, unlike that guy, we’re pro-union, politically active environmentalists who vote for progressive candidates. Just an absolute wtf moment.
We own a house too, but it's actually cheaper to pay the mortgage here than to rent an apartment. Even so, it's similar to yours, and we're on two programs to help us afford it. It's our first home, and we bought it in 2019. Since then, the cost of housing has drastically increased here to the point that I don't think we could afford it now.
Same with us - a mortgage was cheaper than renting what was available. If it wasn’t for a “zero down” VA loan and crazy low interest rates, we wouldn’t have been able to buy.
It’s horrible to see millions of younger adults hemorrhaging money on rent because they don’t have 20% to put on an overpriced house, but as you stated, that isn’t due to the year someone was born; it’s because the rich are kicking us down.
We had no money to put down whatsoever, which led me to believe we couldn't buy a home. We had to take out an additional loan for the down payment because we had no savings. I was actually surprised we got approved because my husband had just gotten his permanent residency, and I was effectively broke following addiction related career loss.
Ah that extra loan hurts. Good thing you have your Super Special Boomer Advantage wealth socked away for vacations and retirement!
Yep, all those gold bars! But iirc the loan is part of a program for low income people and we haven't actually had to make a payment on it yet, just the mortgage itself.
It was hell applying though. I had to send receipts for every time I got reimbursed for travel from work and write detailed explanations. Don't ask me how it all worked because tbh I'm still confused lol
On the nose. Only fight is the class fight
Wholeheartedly agree. The most bizarre thing for me is my oldest siblings are 7yrs older and they are considered Boomers, and what a stark difference. Both had excellent education, careers, both union, and capitalism worked for them, they dodged all the market downturns, recessions & bubbles- and they're quite opinionated on them lazy kids, immigrants, etc.
My company is full of Gen X (I myself am just on the X/Millennial cusp) and they are honestly some of the best allies that Millenials and Z aren't tapping into. Gen X pull weight and equally don't give a fuck, due to the latchkey-COWABUNGA-go-play-in-the-streets timeframe they grew up in.
The boomers have been really successfull in simultaneously punching down across the generations and making us punch down on each other at the same time.
We were called slackers. Welcome to our club! We love you.
I have a feeling GenX are also the first generation that won't be allowed to retire, so we're going to be working with them for a long time.
Because we (GenX here). Are bookended by the two largest generations ever and we are the smallest one. So here we are both paying for our parents retirement and paying for our kids who don't have careers yet.
We are totally fucked. I don't plan on ever retiring. I'm too important to too many people that matter immensely to me.
This Gen Xer is planning to die relatively young. Retirement definitely is not in the cards. I have a permanent chronic health condition. My wife has already fought cancer once. Healthcare is impoverishing. I will probably die at my desk. I hope I doesn't demoralize my younger coworker friends.
I guess I could easily slave another 25 years. Mostly I hope to live long enough to pay off my house, so my kid can actually own one. I feel like I should have bought him one ten years ago, but I couldn't afford to.
Maybe some. But some of us got in on 401k and ira and stuff. I know some didn't though. I worry about millennials and especially gen z, though. Us progressives and those even further left gotta start running for office and fix this shit.
The only thing that stopped us taking over was being outnumbered, and that’s changing fast.
I'm rooting for y'all. I consider myself to be a decently successful person, and behind my success at multiple pivotal moments, was an influential Gen X person supporting and/or vouching for me.
Thanks!
We had to learn altruism to survive the neglect, so our parents accidentally trained us not to pull up the ladder like the Boomers. Lord of the Flies debunked.
To be honest the neglect was better than when they did pay attention, for all we complain about it. No parenting was better than shitty parenting.
I found star trek TNG as a role model but also Beavis and butthead trained me. I mean we lived when ypu could pick up a phone daily random digits and prank a stranger, we were invisible when we wanted to be.