We need to stand against genocidal wankers!
this post was submitted on 25 Jun 2025
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Until the majority of Palestinians accept that Israel has a right to exist alongside a Palestinian state, there won't be lasting peace between the two. An incredibly poor choice of words, but the point is clear to those willing to listen.
Victimblaming nicely folded into this comment.
There are people responsible on both sides. I will not argue with you about that fact.
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Carefully worded what-aboutism.
The absolute irony of quipping about poor choice of words... Jesus.
Do you believe in a two state solution?
I don't. It is and always has been a stalling tactic for the purpose of ethnic cleansing. The only viable solution always has a been a one state solution of equal rights for all.
Now if the Palestinians want to accept a two state solution out of desperation, sure I can live with that. Coming from anyone else? Get absolutely the fuck out of here. No ethno states, period. And Israel must abide by international law and allow the right to return of refugees.
It is absolutely insane for Carney to suggest a Zionist Palestine.
Why you needed to edit this 3 times in a couple of minutes, and then repost it after I responded, I can only assume you actually were hoping to get an out of context response, so I still won’t bother responding to your genocidal rhetoric about a 1 state solution, or continue this conversation further as I see you as a major part of the problem and do not have the energy to deal with you.
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Why you needed to edit this 3 times in a couple of minutes I will never know. Likely hoping to get an out of context response I assume so I won't bother actually responding to your genocidal rhetoric about a 1 state solution, or continue this conversation further as I see you as a major part of the problem and do not have the energy to deal with you.
The one state solution is the best solution. The hell are you talking about. A two state solution would mean 2 millions Palestinians will be kicked out of Israel and 700k settlers will be removed from the west bank. A one state solution will give equal rights to both Israelis and Palestinians what genocidal about it?
How would you get some equivalent of reconstruction (the term as in US history) in order? Even with 10 years of radical reconstruction and sending the big-ass federal army into states to tightly enforce the rights of black people, they still got Jim Crow'd over with all kinds of abuse. Even with the 60s Civil Rights acts they're still substantially disadvantaged and discriminated against today. This'd be even worse in Palestine's rubble. Wealth is power, and if you just simply have a one-state solution, the rich will quickly eat the poor. On what basis can you make a reconstruction, since Israel has already resisted global "resolutions" (security council or not) time after time, and Palestine doesn't seem to have a chance at scoring the victory the Union based its reconstruction authority on?
That is not at all what a two state solution should look like.
Please tell this jew how a one state, of equal rights, solution is genocidal. Go on.
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As long as israel pretend that the whole land belong to them there is no solution
It kinda does. They have an older claim than the Muslims.
This is so ridiculous . There was people before Israelites and after them in the land why do you think the jews has the eternal right over all other who lived in the land . You can't even proof that the Zionists who are foreigners had any connection to the old Israelites. While we know from history that during the Arab conquest of the area there was no major ethnic cleansing so basically part of the Palestinians was jews and Christian converted to Islam and other are the product of intermarriage . 50k of the ethnically cleansing Palestinians in 48 was Christians so stop with your bad intention of making it about Muslims vs jews
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That is another part of the very, very complicated issue in the area yes. That does not negate the fact that change is required for lasting peace, and it needs to happen on all sides of the issue.
You really believe that Palestinians will keep attacking Israel if they give back the whole part of the west bank and gaza? Israel should get the hell out of Palestinians land regardless
Yes. I believe peace can prevail if the rest of the world stops fucking around.
Which is why Palestinians need to accept that Israel has a right to exist within the 1967 borders. Israel also needs to accept the fact that Palestine has a right to exist within the borders determined in 1967.
Not all the land is Palestinian land, and that is a matter of fact. Israelis, especially those indigenous to the area, have a right to exist there. Just like Palestinians have a right to exist there.
Most of the Palestinians accept Israel existence and agree with the pre 67 border it is Israel who refuse to accept it and keep building illegal settlements making a two state solution hard to accomplish , every single Israeli prime minister has oppressed Palestinians and believe the land was their either for religious or ethnic supremacy reasons.
Nothing but giving back all post 67 land to Palestinians , giving the right to return to Palestinians who was ethnically cleansing and want to go back to Israel while accepting their laws and also having an army to defend the state for any other potential aggression or a one state solution with equal rights to everybody would be accepted
Nothing but giving back all post 67 land to Palestinians , giving the right to return to Palestinians who was ethnically cleansing and want to go back to Israel while accepting their laws and also having an army to defend the state for any other potential aggression or a one state solution with equal rights to everybody would be accepted
You need to learn to recognize someone who agrees with you before arguing with them in the future. We know what needs to happen on the Israeli side for peace, my point is there is another side that has problems that need solving as well and that Palestinians are responsible for their side.
We do not agree. You make look like both side don't want peace. I think it is israel who don't want it because they still believe in jewish supermacy
I absolutely agree, Israel is very much doing incredibly unjust, disgusting, and unimaginable things right now but that doesn't change the situation on the other side or what they have done.
Why hasn't Hama's surrendered and returned the remaining hostages and bodies if peace is their goal?
Israel murdered 57k (2.7%) Palestinians in a population of 2.1m and decimated their homes with missiles all over the country.
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Hamas hasn't surrendered and didn't return the hostages because Israel will continue the genocide and occupation, Satanyaho admitted it . Hamas say they will drop arms when Gaza and west bank and east Jerusalem are no longer occupied.
How about liberating Palestinians then bring both sides war criminals to justice?
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