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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

It baffles me every time I see a sov cit state there is no victim, because the plaintiff is the state, that they can’t figure out that the state is representing the citizens of that state, who are the victims.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

These things aren’t real, are they?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

They're very real. The posts I've seen in the various groups I'm in are wild.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I don't know about this one, but we had a group of these around here a couple of years back. They largely flew under the radar until their leader one day decided enough was enough, marched to the nearest military based and asked to see the commander. She then handed him a list of people to arrest including the president, every member of the government and a couple of other high profile people. In comparison that the screenshot seems fairly tame, so I'll believe it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Does the poster think that a summons is like a seance? Like they are summoning them back from beyond the grave? Lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

1 sovereign citizen is very angry with you

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

That's fine, I have a socialized police force to protect me (supposedly, let's not get to far into reality here) that has been afforded to me by my tax dollars and subject citizenship.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Not that any of it makes sense, but what is the alive vs dead part about? What is their "logic" as to why there is any difference?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

You "summon" spirits, aka dead people. Since they're alive, they can't be summoned. They should instead be invited. That's my guess.

Is all cirque du soleil levels of mental gymnastics and logical jumps to conclusions.

Alto notice, "my person" for they think legally they're different from their legal ID. And the idea that they must only respond to a crime charges if there's a person injured. As they have weird beliefs of how private property and crimes against property work, due to their weird misconception of legality.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wow, instead of being "three bricks short of a load" these people are like a few pallets short.

I've seen like 3 or 4 of these posts recently on here and IMO they're more odd than all the QAnon posts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

they’re more odd than all the QAnon posts

Those two Venn diagrams are nearly a circle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

True, maybe because QAnon has been "normalized" since it has been in the news for years now, but these people just seem so much more bizarre to me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Pffft. Lol. That's probably it. It's mind-blowing that people like this exist. Such stupidity.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's what I've noticed the most about these Sovereign Shitizens - they think legalese is just spinning words and they can just identify their legal status based on their own definitions thereof. They all lack one basic understanding of sovereignty - enforcement and self-defense. If you truly are sovereign prove it. Repel the invasion of our military and you will have earned your sovereignty.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There’s one other piece besides defending yourself. Building a collation of entities that acknowledge your sovereignty. Guess their probability of that happening.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Uh they would just all get together like a bunch of Jerry's and shake each other's hands "oh YOU agree sovereign" "no you are sovereign"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Me and the squad endorsing each other’s LinkedIn skills

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They're convinced that legalese is a magical language and if they say the right words in the right way, they'll become immune to the law.

They remind me of Cargo Cults.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

How is an invitation better than a summons? Lol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

When you start summoning things, you never know what else they'll bring with them from the other side.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Well they could be summoned in defense mode, they would be placed sideways and face down.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Or alternatively, they could come down with Summoning Sickness and not be able to attack or use their activated ability until the next turn.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Here he is being equally bonkers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

This was his only other post:

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm sorry, I don't wish to be mean, but this really and truly was a naive comment. These people have been out there forever but have started coming out from their hiding places over the last 10 - 15 years, just like the incels and tankies.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So you think it's impossible this guy I posting outrageous stuff for fun and to troll people like you? But I'm naive. Got it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Even if this guy is joking it's not a joke to a lot of people, dude isn't saying random shit it all means specific things in the warped bizarro version of the legal system they believe exists. Look up Sovereign Citizens, it's nuts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Have you really missed the Sovereign Citizens movement entirely? Oh boy, you should look it up. These guys are hilarious!

Well, except for that lady trying to hide her daughter and refusing to get her a birth certificate. But mostly they’re funny.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I have a bunch of this guy's other posts and they're equally insane.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Trust me these people are nuts, I fully believe this is a real post!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

It was a mail order scam that targeting poor, uneducated people that were charged with crimes. Now it's an online scam.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

It really isn't.