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[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (36 children)

"I have no math talent, but that's ok I'll use a tool to help" - absolutely no issues, math is hard and you don't need most of it in "real life" (nonsense of course)

"I can't code so I'll use a web page maker to help" - all good, learning to code is optional, it's what you create that matters right?

"Hey AI, break this concept down for me to help me learn it" - surprisingly, still good (though very ill advised, also built on plagiarism and putting private tutors out of work...).

"I have no art talent, but that's ok I'll use a tool to help" - society melts down because...?

I suppose it could just be a case of being happy to see talents we don't have replaced by a tool? Then again, it might be artists are better at generating attractive looking arguments for their case.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Except that being good at math or being good at designing a web page have nothing to do with memorising formulas or coding. It's about being able to break down the problems into manageable pieces and applying your knowledge to bring structure to them. Which isn't something you can replicate with a tool, if you don't know how it's done in the first place.

If you know nothing about the general principles of math, you won't be able to solve problems even with tools, because you won't know which tools to use and how.

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd somewhat disagree there.

This isn't about the intrinsic value of the skill, or a deep understanding, it is a utilitarian application to solve a problem.

In this respect, tool using is seen as valuable. Mathematical tools (because of their ease of coding) have been popular for decades. Similarly, web page creation tools have existed for a long time - a complete novice can create professional looking pages with them.

The results from these tools may lack substance and nuance, these being given only by deep understanding, but the same can be said of AI generated images.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You do need the skill to use the tools, though.

a complete novice can create professional looking pages with them

Not unless they already know what makes a page professional looking. Otherwise, how would they tell whether they've succeeded?

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 7 points 1 month ago

But... I know HTML, CSS and JS and my page still doesn't look professional!

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

In much the same way a person can evaluate an art style and say "this is what I want".

Often, when people without knowledge attempt to create web pages, they're not the best, they look good but aren't well made. Much as AI art isn't superior to a skilled artist.

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[–] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 36 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So basically there are now a couple studies that show critical thinking skills are on the decline due to AI use which is bad because. 1. Makes you easier to manipulate. 2. How do you check if the AI is Right?

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ooh, links please! Might be worth throwing a few cogs into the university's strategic goals.

[–] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 21 points 1 month ago

Gerlich 2025 AI Tools in Society: Impacts on Cognitive Offloading and the Future of Critical Thinking: https://www.mdpi.com/2075-4698/15/1/6

Lee 2025 The Impact of Generative AI on Critical Thinking: Self-Reported Reductions in Cognitive Effort and Confidence Effects From a Survey of Knowledge Workers https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/publication/the-impact-of-generative-ai-on-critical-thinking-self-reported-reductions-in-cognitive-effort-and-confidence-effects-from-a-survey-of-knowledge-workers/

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[–] JediMindTricks@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago

Yes, because my wife is Stalin

[–] TxzK@lemmy.zip 89 points 1 month ago (2 children)

nah, I want chat gpt to be my wife, since I don't have a real one

/s

[–] hmmm@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Fuck /s.

I want a fuckable android.. Uhh I mean maid wife.

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[–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 45 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Kwebbelkop making an AI generated video from an AI generated prompt for his AI to react to:

[–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Kwebbelkop said on a Dutch tv channel that all the dutch speaking youtubers were insignificant compared to him. Now the only thing he produces is garbage and the Dutch youtubers still make authentic content.

Fuck kwebbelkop.

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