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The idea feels like sci-fi because you're so used to it, imagining ads gone feels like asking to outlaw gravity. But humanity had been free of current forms of advertising for 99.9% of its existence. Word-of-mouth and community networks worked just fine. First-party websites and online communities would now improve on that.

The traditional argument pro-advertising—that it provides consumers with necessary information—hasn't been valid for decades.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As I sat down this morning to enjoy my warm and full-flavored Folger's coffee, it got me thinking: traditional advertising might disappear, but something sneakier would inevitably fill the void: product placement.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Then you can ban paid product placement.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“Online communities” are great, but how do you stop them from being infiltrated by corporate astroturfers within five minutes of creation? Doesn’t every major brand have a low-overhead keyboard farm posting social media and forum comments to make them look good?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Regulate and ban astroturfing campaigns. When corporations are caught doing so, have the penalties be similar to illegal dumping and include jail time for executives.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (7 children)

OTA tv would no longer be possible, nor radio AM or FM.
Newspapers (what is left of them) would no longer be possible, neither wouild magazines.
A good deal of the internet is supported by ads too.
If you are willing to give up everything that is supported by ads, I suppose it could work.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lol.

You are aware that newspapers and magazines currently exist that are entirely behind paywalls right?

Both private subscriptions exist, as does government funding.

It is entirely possible to exist in a world that both has the BBC and has The Guardian...

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They’re getting way more money from stealing and selling data than ads anyway and really, TV and Radio only need to exist over the air for emergency or government stations so no income is needed. We shut off 3G, freeing up those radio and TV bands would be no problem.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There is state funded news media called European Broadcasting Union, which can do whatever without ads.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well, then broadcasters might be beholden to the whims of the government. Certain content might be promoted, and other content suppressed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Because that absolutely doesn't happen now, it just removes the corporate middle man

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's not a bad point, and also highlights how we're simultaneously spoiled for "free" platforms, while we're surveilled for content and metrics, and bombarded by general and targeted advertising.

It's like, imagine a world where there was a water fountain at the corner of every street, every parking lot, and every bus stop. How convenient that would be! But every time you walked near one they would squawk out a little ad.

Sure without the ads, you wouldn't have the water fountains. But given the choice, I'd rather put up with the inconvenience of having to carry a water bottle when I'm out for a long time.

To me the choice seems obvious. Maybe to some people the ads don't feel like such a intrusion, though?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Large corporate owned would be impossible. What you would see are more locally small businesses that get more customers. However things would be more expensive overall at a glance. But I bet we would see general living go up for all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Well yeah, less money leaving local economies.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

either governments and/or individuals would need to support them, it's hardly impossible

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's necessary for monopoly capitalism to induce demand. It's part of the planned economy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

You know there’s advertising in every single form of sociopolitical government, right?

Communism has advertising. As does socialism.

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