Doing payroll would be you performing a transaction in another country to people in that other country. At no point are you performing work where you receive remuneration in the country you're visiting - which is the point of working visas. Just because you did a bit of paperwork for your work back home doesn't mean you're violating tourist visa conditions.
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So what I'm not understanding is, why are we putting people in jail for something that isn't causing harm? Unless, is there something about overstaying your visa that is harmful?
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I'm sorry, but this is NOT the kind of person I want in prison. AND I don't want prisons profiting off her misery.
I want to know who narced on her.
She was just doing chores at houses in exchange for boarding. She wasn’t paid. She just did chores.
She narced on herself to Canada, then America overheard.
That would qualify as work according to the US gov. Because by doing these chores, you are potentially causing someone to not need to pay a nanny or whatever. Be careful how you define work -- you don't need to be directly paid.
It's not work because you're depriving someone of the job, it's work because you are doing a task for a benefit. It's just a non cash benefit.
By throwing your rubbish in a bin whilst in the USA, you are causing the city to not need to pay a litter picker to collect and throw your rubbish into a bin.
I know I'm just being silly, and I know you're not wrong, I'm just sayin. There's a thousand ways one could look at almost any action and suggest ways in which it is "work" if we define it as causing someone else to not have to do a job or get paid for something.
You're not being silly, and it is wrong. Just because ICE is bending over backwards to drag people into this shit doesn't make it right, and you shouldn't fall for their gaslighting and normalization. It's wrong, and you should feel confident in calling out how fucking absurd this shit is.
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There were other tourists, too. Bana, from Romania, was on holiday in Canada and visited Peace Arch park, on the international boundary between the US and Canada. She told Becky she had been taking selfies with her husband when a US border official told her they had strayed into American territory without the right visa and took her into custody.
So they're bringing people into the country to arrest them. Genius. Those detention centers must be rolling in cash right now and DOGE is ignoring it.
Isn't peace arch park not supposed to be excluded from immigration?
Couldn't you just run back over the border?
That's what I was thinking. Would depend where you are, but just leg it
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Best to get a lobotomy before going to the US that way they won’t be able to accuse you of trying to work illegally while you’re there. It also has the benefit that you’ll finally be on the same mental level as Trump and his supporters.