Didn’t we do this already back in the 90s with IE bundling??
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This is cool and all, but why do we always stop at Microsoft? I think it would be more impactful in 2023 if we can uninstall Safari from iOS devices and Chrome from Android?
You should still switch to Linux.
I live in the UK, and because of Brexit we won't get this. Thanks Nigel Farage.
Hell has truly frozen over. I guarantee that uninstalling edge will break something else in Windows
As a Linux user, this is freaking funny.
Even better as a Windows 10 user - get to avoid the issues with version 11 and the issues with Linux!
Even better as a Windows 10 user
? Thanks for the heads up, not sure how it's really relevant.
not sure how it’s really relevant.
Your original comment mentioned this...
Even better as a Windows 10 user - get to avoid the issues with version 11
I responded with the end of life date for Windows 10 to let you know that those are depending on staying on Windows 10 can only do so for a limited amount of time, and hence only have a limited time of avoiding issues with Windows 10. That's the relevance.
You can say this about all software though? Linux also won't be around forever... So it's somewhat irrelevant.
You can say this about all software though? Linux also won’t be around forever… So it’s somewhat irrelevant.
First, we're talking about OS's, and not software in general. Please don't use a debate tactic to move the goal posts.
Second, nope, you can't, so it is relevant. Linux has always been here when other OSs have come and gone (OS/2 anyone?).
To your original comment…
Even better as a Windows 10 user - get to avoid the issues with version 11
Just to reiterate, Windows 10 has a shelf life that is very much shorter than Linux's, so you won't be a Windows 10 user for much longer.
Regardless of how you feel about this and/or Windows vs. Linux, you'll need to plan for it.
Make the smart move, you'll benefit more financially and otherwise for doing so.
Windows has always been free for me so it's no big issue. But yes, as a current Windows 10 user my point still stands that the best of both worlds is using it IMO. Have the widest support for games and can easily remove any bloatware you want from it already.
You are the one who originally changed the goal posts about it being changed in 2 years time and that being an issue. I'll worry about that in 2 years time - for all we know Microsoft will extend the support.
But also to your point, Linux is very young itself so you can't expect it to always be around. Once it's around for 100+ years sure, but I just don't see that being a thing. There'll come a time where it's no longer relevant.
I’ll worry about that in 2 years time - for all we know Microsoft will extend the support.
That link, which it seems you haven't read, is from Microsoft directly, stating their EoL date, so no, that won't change.
But also to your point, Linux is very young itself so you can’t expect it to always be around. Once it’s around for 100+ years sure, but I just don’t see that being a thing. There’ll come a time where it’s no longer relevant.
You truly don't know what you speak of (the italicized part). It's 32 years old.
You are the one who originally changed the goal posts about it being changed in 2 years time and that being an issue.
That's not changing the goalpost.
You said you have Windows 10, so you can avoid Windowd 11 and it's issues that it has that we have all been discussing in this thread.
All I did was respond with that you won't have Windows 10 forever, so you won't be able to avoid Windows 11, which you acknowledged...
I’ll worry about that in 2 years time
Yes, I'm glad companies never change their minds about their policies. When they set a date they always keep to it and have never gone back to it due to consumer demand. Oh except they do that a fair bit. Guess we'll just have to see what Microsoft actually does when it comes time.
32 years is indeed young lol. Maybe you are young yourself so it seems older? There are companies that are hundreds of years old that have gone bankrupt in the last few decades, why would Linux be any different? Again, it may work for now but who knows in the future. But 32 years is nothing. There are older Unix-based systems like Itron and QNX still around and commonly used, but not sure they'll last.
And to your last point, I can just keep Windows 10 past 2025... It's not like lack of support forces me up. Do you not realize how many people still use unsupported versions? Check out the XP life cycle: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP#Support_lifecycle
95% of ATM's were still using it for example 5 years after mainstream support ended.
So I wasn't going to bother replying, thinking you were either just trolling, or a bot, but my curiosity got the best of me, so I am replying with just one question...
32 years is indeed young lol.
There are companies that are hundreds of years old that have gone bankrupt in the last few decades, why would Linux be any different?
Are you actually aware of the genesis, history, and current status of the ownership of Linux?
Only in EU/EEA countries. So us here in ~~Gilead~~ America are SOL at the moment
It's because of this that I stopped using windows. Now that steam allows Linux gaming I have no need to revert to that os.
Are multiplayer titles with anti cheat (Call of Duty, Valorant, etc) able to be played yet? It's the only thing holding me back.
Are multiplayer titles with anti cheat
EAC is on Linux now, don't know about any other ones.
Does Linux let you disable its system-embedded advertisements? Didn't think so!
So apparently having consumer-friendly laws does in fact lead to better products. Cool.
Perhaps the USA and other countries should follow the EU's good example on this.
Once steam covers 90% of games windows becomes irrelevant.
For gamers-only maybe lmao
E: and people willing to spend several hours a month wondering why their OS broke again
I'm a Linux guy and I don't really care about Windows, but I'm glad to see this happening and every day I thank Europe for being the main entity fighting for regulation of big tech monopolies, because America is really failing.
EU is very much a mixed bag. On the one hand, they do this, on the other hand, they tried to ban P2P encryption and microtargetted religious and elderly in resisting countries, feeding them the classic "it's for the children's safety" lies.
they tried to ban P2P encryption
They recently enshrined it as an unalienable human right as a world first.
Its nuts that during the Obama admin, all anyone cared about was the threat of zero privacy. Now everyone in the US has surrendered to it, because our politicians have sold our digital privacy rights to the tech companies.
Hey, 'Muricans, how come we need to pressure every company into compliance for you?
Do you really think any average citizen has any say in this whatsoever?
Yes. You're a democracy, right? Right?
ABOUT FUCKING TIME. Take edge and shove it so far up your data tracking sphincter of a face hole.
Can we please get these laws on a global level.
Nope. But hey look, the Democrats are coming to take your guns!
Well they'll probably reinstall it with every update anyway.
They would get massive fines if they tried that.
I’m not disagreeing, but what entity would enforce those global laws?
Same way laws are enforced now? Each country passing it and the companies needing to comply to continue operations.
Why are they force to comply right now if the laws don’t work?
You’re missing the point.
The ICC only has power in countries that let them have power. If a given country doesn’t feel like doing that, the ICC has precisely zero recourse or ability to enforce.
What should citizens in countries like that (which may or may not be dictatorships, single-party states, theocracies, or some other restrictive, un-democratic, and/or xenophobic form of government) do?
La Haye International Court of Justice, of course.
And what happens when the country in question is one that doesn’t care that much about the ICC, and responds “make me”?
To wit: The United States has famously refused to subordinate itself to the ICC
Why yes Microsoft, I am totally a European in Europe right now...