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[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (11 children)

Mam, I wish geopolitics was as simple as you "genocide joe" bros seem to think it is.

This is actually huge and we should be celebrating it as a win. We'll that's if you actually care about the people of Gaza and don't just want to use them as an excuse to attack Biden.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

So you think if Biden was so inclined to he could just say "no more support for Israel" and everyone would just happily go along with it because he's president and everyone has to do what he says?

Or would an administration with no majority in either the senate or the house maybe have trouble going against decades of policy and doctrine, to abandon its closest ally in an incredibly unstable and important region and put at risk American political and corporate interests in the area?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

"We are not waiting on the Israelis"

Also

The scheme will take several weeks to put into action, however, carrying the risk of supplying too little relief, too late.

Someone tell Biden that if he actually wants to do something he has a few aircraft carriers and frigates nearby perfectly capable of delivering food

Or maybe Biden doesn't want to do anything. He just wants to make it look like he does something. Wonder which it could be.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

The US and UK (either or) could've stopped the genocide immediately -- establishing a no-fly zone over Gaza and forcing israel to respect the Rafah border crossing instead of bombing it every time the trucks moved through a little too freely.

They have no intention of stopping this unless Hamas suddenly becomes much more profitable to western interests than Israel.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You people are actually braidead.

Please tell me how a frigate, nevermind a fuckjng aircraft carrier can deliver supplies without a fuckjng port to dock in?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Aircraft carriers actually have a lot of storage space since they have to be able to cruise around for a long time without resupplying. They have many "smaller" boats surrounding them which can easily transport food if they used their life boats.

If there''s a will there's a way. People are actively dying of starvation.

Waiting multiple weeks to build a pier for "clean delivery" is what I would use the adjective in your comment for.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (5 children)

How many tons of food can a lifeboat carry do you think? How does that food get loaded onto and unloaded off the boat? By hand?

If there''s a will there's a way. People are actively dying of starvation.

And the US has been airdropping food in. But there just isn't enough capacity, and Biden has been criticised for not doing enough in that case too. The real solution if for Israel to allow trucks across the land border and not machine gun residents when they try to collect the aide.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The big ship stays in the water, and is used to supply smaller water craft that can ferry them directly to the coast; either by using smaller existing docks, or by simplying beaching on the cost. Unless we are saying that the US military lacks the ability to do a water based ground attack unless the enemy kindly leaves a port for them to use.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

There aren't any functional docs on the strip, the closes is a small marina for small bosts that has no equipment for receiving bulk supplies.

So you would have to load supplies onto lifeboats or ribs, ferry them across and unload them by hand, you wouldn't even get half a tonne per trip realistically and you spend hours loading and unloading it all.

Or if they happen to have amphibious assault ships in the area, they could move small truck of supplies on to the beach. But this would be a costly and still quite innifecient process. Which is why in any actual amphibious landing as soon as the immediate area is secured the Naval Cargo Handling Batallion builds at least a temporary dock at the landing site as soon as possible.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Learning the history behind this conflict has made me reach the conclusion that the only way for it to be resolved is for Zionists to return the land they've stolen.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We’ll call it “reparations.” Israelis can live there too. As equals. Imagine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

As Jewish people did across the levant before the Nakba, with hope.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Just stop Israel and the problem is solved. No need to complicate yourselves with a damn port.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

"Just stop israel"

Wow I never knew geopolitics could be so simple!!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Bro replying to every comment "its not that simple!!!!" when it really is, that fucking simple.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, giving them bombs to kill kids is definitely a very complex situation

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (4 children)

and how are you going to stop israel without declaring war on them? netanyahu is his own person.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Stop funding them, that's it. Stop giving them weapons and money. Condemn their actions. Stop vetoing UN Security Council ceasefire votes.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Just consider reality occasionally, ‘k?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Which is? To keep giving them bombs to kill children while also morally posturing and talking about how awful it is what Israel is doing?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

almost as if, contrary to what perpetually online slacktivists say, there is no easy answer for this considering you stop one side and the other side who has been fighting with them for decades, then starts harming the israeli people.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago

K, America has broken all treaties with Israel to declare a surprise war with a nuclear power.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

This is a moment for American leadership

Oooooooh shiiiit we know how this plays out

Still, at least the Palestinians have a shot at winning this one then 😂

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