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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

I always just used condoms. I only had unprotected sex with women I was willing to have kids with at times we both wanted kids. Over 50 years old, no unwanted pregnancies and no STDs ever. Condoms also help a man last longer in bed, which can help make it more enjoyable for your lady.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

I'm skeptical. Anything targeting signalling pathways seems likely to have consequences that aren't apparent from animal trials. I remember a few years back that MENT (trestolone, 7α-methyl-19-nortestosterone) was being investigated for use as male contraceptive, and one of the biggest issues I recall was that it caused really wild mood swings in a number of men. Admittedly, MENT is hormonal, but I don't think that issues it caused were anticipated; I think the profile looked much more promising than it ended up being.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Mark my words: if this becomes available in the mainstream, one initial effect will be a rise in unplanned pregnancy.

The number of men who will actually take this is less than the number of men who will claim they take this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

"Birth control is for bitches" I can already hear Tate worshippers justifying rape.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Cool! Hopefully it'll actually reach the public before I have kids so they won't have to get a vasectomy like I did. Wait...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

I was already considering hitting up my fwb who has a breeding fetish tbh. Now I'm def gonna quit doomscrolling and [REDACTED]

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The core issue that nobody is mentioning is that (cis) men are ultimately not the people who suffer the consequences for not taking it so they are more likely to just like. Stealthing is already common enough because men insist it feels better.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

the core issue that nobody is mentioning is that men are ultimately not the people who suffer the consequences

No, thats a major hurdle to get this stuff approved. Birth control all comes with downsides, there's no "perfect conception" except absence.

With female birth control, the negatives of birth control can far outweigh the negatives of pregnancy. But men have (essentially) no negative medical issues with pregnancy, so a birth control for men would also have to have next to no long or short term issues.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Stealthing?

Is that where they don't put it on or pretend it comes off or some stupid shit?

I'm... Yeah. Im Not ok now. My ex gave me way too many details about when she cheated on me and now I realize just how stupid I was staying with her as long as I did.

God fucking damnit. I mean I get it. Yeah, there's a noticable difference. But Jesus fucking Christ its rape at that point. I just

Goddamnit fuck men. Fuck all' the bastards that think they can do whatever they want with women. It's not right, I don't care how much hate I get for it. I might be a man, I might be straight as anyone can be. But no one deserves the shit that the patriarchy has created, and every day I seem to learn something new. It's bad enough that I don't conform to the "manly" image of being handy, strong, or arrogant, or sporty.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah. It is that disgusting shit. Someone did it to a friend who does SW last year and it really fucked her up.

I ultimately cannot advocate for male birth control because I trust men so little that I think manhood should be abolished but that is more of a personal stance than anything.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah. Honestly, I don't blame you. I have like 3 friends that are guys. Each in stable relationships. Each very respectful people.

Personally? Another reason I haven't had the balls to try and meet women is because of what "masculinity" is. It's wrong. That's what it is.

Just like no one can choose their identity or their sex assigned at birth, I can't choose the fact that I feel natural in my body as a male and im attracted to women. But I can't fulfill the image that is expected of men. Not amongst men, and not amongst women. If loneliness is the curse I get, then so be it. It's better than being someone I'm not.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

stealthing is and has always been considered rape

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Well, duh, that's why I was surprised that there is another term for it.

It's not consent. That means my ex was fucking raped and she was so far down the denial hole to the point of blaming me for it. I was in denial. 5 fucking years ago she told me about that. I believed her that it was an accident and it did just slip off. But now I know it's a thing that guys actually do and Jesus

It's really fucking me up right now. She didn't get any diseases or get pregnant but shit, that's not ok

Like goddamn I don't know

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Our first was a girl. Second was a boy. Third will be a vasectomy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Last time we will hear about this pill. Like the last 5 times

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

that's how it works. Human trials can be 5, 10+ years.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No side effects from the drug were detected in either group.

Wow, that's great.

I wonder what happened to vasalgel. They were supposed to have trials long ago, but for some reason never got there. The webpage says

NEXT Life Sciences announced its launch of the product called Plan A, using the Vasalgel technology for male contraception. The NEXT team expects Plan A to be available to the public in 2026.

But they've been saying that for a decade or so now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

An alternative to Vasalgel did a couple of trials in January 2024 and they said the trail would be 2 years long to cover the entire lifespan of the drug.

I was trying to figure out why Vasalgel hasn't started human trials but I can't seem to find any actual reasons.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

It seems like they're planning to have it effective for 1-2 years and it takes about 30 days to become effective. That's not great if you need an annual injection of this stuff or if you don't know exactly when it stops being effective.

I think it would need to be more in line with IUD timeliness, which I think range from 5-10 years depending on the type.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What a great time to be alive. Well except for the not having a partner. And being too timid to meet someone. And the whole rise of Nazis.

Ok so maybe not that great, but it's a thing that's cool.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah this could have helped save my relationship… ten years ago.

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