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    [–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    β€œI don’t want to learn/use the CLI” is equivalent to saying β€œI only want to use features that have a GUI”, which you can already do on any operating system (including Linux).

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

    No, it means not needing terminal to have a usable system or to fix it

    even Windows sometimes doesn't meet this

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    What? No, it doesn't mean that.

    If you want audio, but will have to use CLI to fix the issue. You have a feature you want, but can't use because of CLI.

    Same with installing software or using advanced settings. If that is only accessible through CLI, it is a major flaw for any user.

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    [–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

    nah fuck that noise. thats what i use.

    its good to know it more deeply, but i want the practicality of a stable system that gets out of the way of my shitposting.

    if anything, easy stable distros are more worthy because it allows just anyone to ditch windows. instead of being a nerd's plaything, that is.

    [–] [email protected] 37 points 6 days ago (4 children)

    I can understand people not wanting to learn a ton of CLIs, I cannot understand people refusing to use any at all. They have the distinct advantage that you can copy + paste stuff, whereas in Windows you sometimes have to follow like a dozen steps to do whatever you want to do in a 2000s GUI.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

    I got blocked by someone here for the same idea that I thought was balanced: it is a useful tool, it makes it easy to share how to do something.

    That's it. Use it if you want, or don't, but it's not a negative thing. And I too don't advocating sitting up at night reading man pages or anything..

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    [–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (5 children)

    When are you REQUIRED to use cli? The app store works well, many apps have installers, and will be perfect for average users.

    Advanced users should already be familiar with CLI and just need to learn a little more.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

    Falls under advanced users or copy paste from forums with instructions.

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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago

    I believe Linux distros aimed at nontechnical users should strive to not need a user to ever use a terminal, but I also believe folks should be encouraged to try them anyways.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    I'll be honest, as a macos & Linux user, even macos, the (self proclaimed) Holy Grail of accessibility and user friendliness,required me to run a few commands to fix bugs (not in weird softwares, just stuff which stopped working through reboots in the OS itself).

    You can't expect to use a computer without CLI, or what you get is windows (and even then, you might get around the CLI but you gonna need to do some cursed regedit at the first attempt of slight customization, or bug).

    The only exception to this is phones, and for good reason; you hardly can do shit in phones anyway, and if it bugs all you can do is wait for the devs to fix it for you

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    Almost all maintenance tasks and fixes on windows come back to the command line. So I have no idea why people keep bringing it up about Linux.

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    [–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

    and if it bugs all you can do is wait for the devs to fix it for you.

    "Oop, sorry, we only promised 2 major updates! Your 2 year old device is abandoned now."

    --The mobile industry

    We need a decently-hardwared Linux phone so badly...

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