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I have been using KDE for a while, while I like many features I am looking for suggestions to the default email client:

Kmail - completely unusable for me and the only one which could maybe be integrated with kontacts, it could not receive mails from IMAP or pop or would receive only sometimes

Geary - good but too minimal, I need at least some kind of contact list and mailing lists feature, maybe this integrates with gnome contacts? I couldn't find anything in settings

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

I use alpine when I want a text client, Thunderbird when I want graphical.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

No one has mentioned the command line: aerc

I use it and it’s very minimal and clean.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

There is always good old Thunderbird.

According to the official fediverse account of Thunderbird, they are not going to adopt the new Firefox EULA.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

I use aerc thru home-manager accounts on NixOS

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

I use evolution and it's great even on kde

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

I've used Thunderbird since forever as my go-to client, I used mutt as well for a while and that met my needs pretty well.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago
[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

Damn these guys are very passionate about how shitty thunderbird is

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

That is the correct answer

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

I honestly just use webmail.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Has anyone got gmail or outlook working via SMTP in the past couple years? I was using the former with emacs gnus and then it started demanding additional auth that I couldn't provide via a simple file, then in the past 6 months the latter stopped letting me log in.

My ~/.gnus file was like this -

setq user-mail-address "[email protected]"
      user-full-name "My Name")

(setq gnus-select-method
      '(nnimap "outlook"
           (nnimap-address "imap-mail.outlook.com")
           (nnimap-server-port 993)
           (nnimap-stream ssl)))

(setq smtpmail-smtp-server "smtp-mail.outlook.com"
      smtpmail-smtp-service 587
      gnus-ignored-newsgroups "^to\\.\\|^[0-9. ]+\\( \\|$\\)\\|^[\"]\"[#'()]")

~/.authinfo (encrypted with gpg) -

machine imap-mail.outlook.com login [email protected] password **** port 993
machine smtp-mail.outlook.com login [email protected] password **** port 587

I think I might need to start hosting my own email server because every authentication option on these services requires some extra step or fingerprinting that gnus can't provide. Maybe I should give up and try Thunderbird to see if that would work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

I spun up a mailcow instance relatively simply through elestio (new to me devops as a service). Takes a few clicks, let's you pick your cloud provider and has pretty slick admin UI to manage firewalls and dockerfiles etc.

I've never setup an SMTP server before, but I've decided to with my "buy Canadian" initiative to eschew the tech-oligarchy at every turn I can. Not for Canadians sovereignty alone, but to help get rid the planet of billionaires by starving them of their capital.

But I digress, mailcow makes setting up DNS a breeze and elestio makes mailcow a breeze. I've actually spun up this Lemmy instance on elestio too, just so nice its a game changer. Here's info about mailcow https://elest.io/open-source/mailcow and no I'm not affiliated with elestio, just seems solid thus far (only been using it for a month, but support is on point too).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Ok going to try Thunderbird tomorrow and if it works then I'll see if I can reverse engineer whatever it does into gnus

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Kmail, Thunderbird, Evolution. That's pretty much it.

There's always some weird niche client somewhere but it won't be a hidden gem. Although I guess you can always use Pine (or rather Alpine nowadays) if you want to appear ubergeeky.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Evolution is really great. I was able to make Kmail work, so because it integrates best into Plasma, I am using that. But setting it up was not a fun experience.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Depends on what you want. Email client or groupware client?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Is anybody still using mailspring? I remember trying it back in '16 or '17 or so, liked it, but didn't really feel the need for a standalone client at the time.

Now I'm looking forward to creating more email addresses, and multiple tabs of webmail are getting gradually less appealing. Sure, Thunderbird works...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

with every reinstall, i go hunting for decent calendar- and email-apps. always go back to Evolution eventually

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

Every time I look around for a new mail client I come back to thunderbird. Nothing else ticks all the boxes

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

If your into Linux and a decent admin. Nothing is better than neomutt. Add not much.

Filtering and searching is faster than Google on gigs of mail.

It will take a long time to configure it well. But it's worth it. I rarely change the config.

I have been using Linux since 1992.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I can't wait to poke around neomutt when I set up my computer

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago

Thunderbird

It is bot the most feature rich and the most annoying thing, but it works

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

This recent post may be of interest to you: https://lemmy.ml/post/27474047

You may also find some ideas here or there.

I personaly use the power of neomutt and notmuch, but it's not a GUI option if that's what you're looking for.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

What mailing list features do you need?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If you arena opposed to GNOME, you add your online accounts and it integrates them into evolution mail, calendar and contacts. And also Gdrive becomes a mounted folder if you add Google account.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No I actually prefer GNOME, but have to use KDE because I need specific features (kiosk mode), but yes I feel like Gnome is so much better integrated with its defaults apps!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I'm no Betterbird. For mail it's just fine. OTOH, I find the calendar a bit annoying, as doesn't allow to set email reminders when creating new event in a caldav calendary.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago
[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

So what is the point of an email client? I've only ever really used web pages because it did everything I need.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Multiple accounts, offline backup, better UI, don't need to log in, etc.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

For me it's handy because I have multiple email accounts so I can just open Betterbird and check them all at once without having to log into several different pages.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

@dukeofdummies @CrabAndBroom +1 for Betterbird, it's Thunderbird that works

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Thunderbird already works.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

@Spaniard It's all good if it works for you, no problem.
For me TB lacks a few things, I have a vague feeling that BB is what TB would have been if Mozilla still cared for users more than other things 🥲

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I am A big fan of Vivaldi and its built-in email client ^^ Works like a charm for me.

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