cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/23485321
Centrists are right-wingers pretending to care about leftist opinions
this post was submitted on 22 Mar 2025
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If by "far right" and "far left" you mean people that prefer authoritarian forms of government over democracy, then yeah, it's not all that much different. From my discussions with MAGAs and tankies I've concluded they're the same kind of people, they just quote different talking points.
There's more to the left than tankies.
Do you want democracy or do you want to impose your idea of a utopia onto others through authoritarianism?
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I see you fall into the centrist category.
Nah I'm not bound by political "categories" because I'm actually capable of thinking about issues. But sure go on believing the complexities of humanity can all be placed onto some arbitrary one-dimensional line. Come up with as much terminology as you can to make that sound like a smart way to understand the world LOL.
You seem to be incapable of seeing your argument as an exact example of the centrist category.
You simple bro lol
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@FenrirIII
That's more like "center left".
At least some definition of "Far Left" would be more: "we're gonna get everyone's basic needs meet by exterminating entire social groups because they're impure". It's not the only one, but it's the one that "centrists" would say it's no different from the "far right".
That’s why there is a political compass. Which is actually a political cube. Which is actually a political tesseract. /s
I didn't think voters had access to "exterminate the rich" type representatives though. I can vote for neoliberal with a dash of mildly left (the Radical Left™)... or GOP which are actually far right.
Tax the rich, restructure police, equality at a snail's pace. That's the far left in reality for voters. Centrists really are bastards.
@mhague
The problem with the US political system is that it's so far skewed to the right that the moderate right Democrats are called "far left", and by hearing "far left" people will associate it with Stalin and Mao...
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The left will feed a thousand people, in fear that one may starve. The right will starve a thousand people, in fear that one is undeserving.
This is far more realistic than op
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Wish it was this mild. Centrists are more like "Hmm, how can I get the votes of the bigot? A riddle for the ages." And "Why can't those assholes complaining about affording healthcare shut the fuck up, they're breaking my concentration on how to win over the bigots".
Centrists hate the left but will take their vote. They are horny for the right and will abandon any left principle of it'll get their vote.
Hence Kamala running a Republican campaign.
Much more like we would love to help with these leftist plans, but when the people asking for them storm off in a huff if they don't get promised a day 1 soviet utopia they're seen as entirely unreliable. When the 'left' run off because 'you blue maga are no better than fascists' how is anyone meant to even try and help them?
So better to go court the racists right? Because the plan of setting up concentration camps is so concrete and easy to achieve.
But now, let's just talk about how disingenuous this argument is. Most leftists aren't asking for the world and most of the the leftist demands can boil down to "Give use social programs, pay for it by taxing rich assholes". Most leftists aren't asking for a communist utopia and plenty of leftists are also anarchists.
Yet all we hear from centrists is "Oh, it's just so pie in the sky, It'll never work. We couldn't begin to work on this!" All because they don't even want to acknowledge "tax the rich" or "expand workers rights" for fear they'll scare off a donor or two.
I would accept pretty much ANY social program being pushed by dems paid by taxes. One that is absurdly popular is single payer healthcare and it's real easy to achieve because we already have these programs in the form of medicaid and medicare. Making the program literally is just expanding the programs to everyone. You could even phase it in over years, much like SS is slowly being phased out.
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Yeah allowing even a single Palestinian speaker at the DNC, with vetted speech, and a promised endorsement of Kamala is really a lot to ask, what were those tankies thinking? Even the smallest step in the direction workers rights or not doing genocide was one too many for the Kamala campaign. The democrats rightly lost by pandering to billionaires and oligarchs rather than courting voters.
lol. In America "fat left" is getting basic needs met.
i suppose it's something.
Watching centrists talk to the far right like they're some sort of sensible:
meirl talking to some dude just the other day who was complaining because i was talking mean about trump voters, "just help people to be a better person" etc., but wouldn't give concrete examples of how to do that with people whose literal goal is to be as shitty as possible
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