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They sell things that come in cups, or with napkins. Lots of people cycle/run/walk here instead of driving, seems pretty stupid.

Taking away the bins doesn't mean you don't produce rubbish....

Edit: I think there is still a bin IN the cafe, but most people eat/drink outside. Lots of people asking staff where the bins are. Still hypocritical I think though? (And still mildly infuriating to remove well used bins!)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

It's been this way as long as I can remember down at Moors Valley. From my limited observations there, it surprisingly works much better than you might expect.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 hours ago

"we don't want to pay human beings to do the necessary work created by our business, so we're offloading it to you."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

This is an interesting read:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272494421001225?via=ihub

For some context: This paper discusses how more trash cans negatively impact how people perceive a natural space, but removing them without providing effective signage may increase litter.

A combination of effective signage and having easily accessible bins (for staff to maintain) near park entries and exits lowered the amount of litter and improved how people perceived the natural space.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago

There is a potentially good way to do this, ensure the cafe uses minimal packaging and what packaging is used is compostable. Then just have compost bins.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Growing up in the 60s, we saw anti-littering commercials, called PSAs (Public Service Announcements),on TV every day. Ask any older American what they remember about those PSAs, and they will say "The crying Indian."

Today, they never show those anymore, and i am seeing young people littering as a result. I was recently in a fast food lot, and saw a car pull in, a young guy about 20 get out, and throw a bunch old fast food trash into the bushes, then walk into the restaurant. He passed a trash can next to the door on his way in, where he could have tossed his trash, but he just tossed it in the bushes instead.

I collected up the trash, and set it on the hood of his fancy hot rod.

I've seen plenty of similar examples in the last few years, because young people dont see those PSAs telling them not to, and even their parents havent been educated to teach them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

I've seen mongoloids throw trash on the floor while they stood less than a foot away from the trashcan. Should've thrown him in the trash.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Idk, that was before my time and it just seems common sense to me to not litter 🤷‍♂️ the trash doesn't just disappear and it will become someone else's problem.

It feels to me a lot of people don't care if it becomes someone else's problem and that mentality goes through all parts of their lives.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 hours ago

And that was the secondary effect of PSAs like the litter campaign. The underlying message was that we are all in this together, we have to live with each other, so lets try to clean up after ourselves because it benefits us all.

That message being burned in our brains at such a young age contributed to our sense of pride in America. Today, it's just everyone for themselves.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 hours ago

Pack in, Pack out.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago

Geniuses have no understanding of how some people can be dirty.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 hours ago

Sounds to me like they just dont want to empty the bins any more. I suspect after a few months of picking rubbish off the floor, the bins will be back.

Or not and everyone will complain and stop going.

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