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Discord was already succumbing to enshitification. Now with their intention to be owned by Wall Street, that trajectory will certainly accelerate at warp speed once the change of hands happens.

Anyone already get ahead of this and find a solid alternative?

Right now I'm on the fence between Element for Matrix, and Revolt. Both seem to have their pros and cons and I can't find a clear "winner".

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Avoid Revolt as there moderation is questionable

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (4 children)

If you're self hosting, it's Revolt. But the default instance limits you to 20mb or something for files, which is a problem for me, personally.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Doesnt discord also have a max of like 25mb? Unless you pay for nitro?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If that, depending on the type of file sometimes its 10mb

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I believe it's ~100mb. I don't mind paying for more. That's not an option on Revolt.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Revolt is also an annoyance to self host and the apps don’t support self hosted instances without you rebuilding them because the server is hardcoded.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why even give the option then lmao

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

That’s just it, it isn’t an option

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[–] [email protected] 128 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Ah this is so exciting!

Discord 'existing' has held back development motivation on Foss Federated Communication alternatives.

When they go public only good things will happen for projects like matrix :)

I'm very excited!

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

Matrix is cool but it really suffers from complexity.

The spec is a mess because they keep expanding it.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I feel like matrix isn't a one-to-one replacement. It's a good slack replacement.

I haven't used matrix enough to know for sure but does it have the discord equivalent of servers?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

those are called spaces there. but there's no flexible roles system. also no hop-on voice channels yet, but that's a client feature so maybe that's a bit different

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

rocketchat seems decent

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