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[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Self-driving in general has been overhyped by grifter tech bros like Elon and really shows the current limits of ML. Today, ML models are basically fuzzy, probabilistic functions that map inputs to outputs and are not capable of actual reasoning. There is a long tail of scenarios where a self-driving car will not generalize properly (i.e., will kill people). Throwing increasingly more data and compute at it won’t suddenly make it capable of reasoning like a human. Like other ML use cases, self-driving is a cool concept that can be put to good use under the right conditions, and can even operate mostly without human supervision. However, anyone claiming it’s safe to let today’s “self-driving” cars shuttle humans around at high speeds with no additional safeguards in place either has an unrealistic understanding of the tech or is a sociopath.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Ahah Tesla is like a 2000s knock-off of good existing technology

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Coming here because I saw how downvoted this post was on Reddit lol. I love that it's triggering the Elon fanboys.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Maybe it was downvoted because of Mormon weirdo Mark Rober and not the content itself?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

Based on comments it's the Tesla stans.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Thank god it doesn’t have LIDAR sensors, much cheaper to repair the front this way

Tap for spoiler/s

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I’ve been shit-talking Elon’s (absolutely boneheaded) decision to intentionally eschew system-redundancy in systems that are critically responsible for human life for years now. Since he never missed an opportunity to show off his swastikar in MANY of his previous videos, I had assumed Mark Rober was a sponsored member of the alt-right intellectual dark web. But I’m pleasantly surprised to see that this video is a solid (WELL-justified) smear. 👌

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I had assumed Mark Rober was a sponsored member of the alt-right intellectual dark web.

He is.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 weeks ago

Props to Benn Jordan for doing this a year ago on a slightly lower budget.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DOd4RLNeT4

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

What about the claims that he only used Autopilot, and not Tesla's Full Self Driving?

(Context: I hate Tesla, just curious for the sake of an honest argument)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Philip DeFranco had him on Yesterday and he said the reason he didn't use FSD was that it required you to input an address, but that there isn't any difference in terms of the sensors being used.

Given that the other car didn't appear to have a version of FSD either, I'm unclear as to why Autopilot wasn't the correct move for the most accurate comparison.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Not any tangible difference in this scenario. Both use vision only. And both use the same computers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

But do they use a different software? Maybe FSD is more advanced than autopilot and could have reacted better?

Just playing devil's advocate here.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

The software may change but these tests show it’s the hardware that’s limiting them. If the Tesla can’t see a kid through fog, it doesn’t matter what software you pick, that kid gunna die.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He was helping out Tesla by doing that. He was helping them get the wins they got instead of just Tesla massacring the kid every time. Note to self: As a pedestrian and you see a tesla, don't cross the street.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

I like to help a Tesla out by throwing it batteries, Philly style.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

The other car only used emergency breaking, so there's that.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Insane that the telsa drives into spaces its unsure of. So dangerous

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What makes you think it’s unsure?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

True its not unsure but it should be. If it doesn't have good viability it should have slowed down or disengaged auto pilot.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe it is sure but that doesn't make it accurate

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's the thing that got me. I would have issues spotting that child through the fog as well, but I wouldn't have sped through it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

A Tesla stopped for me at a crosswalk and I insisted, you go on ahead, I ain’t trusting Musk Tech with my life.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Bonus deep dive about using LiDAR to map out space mountain

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Im shocked Disney isnt thowing a fit over that. Their legal team must be busy this week.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Getting into a legal battle with an immensely popular YouTuber would probably cost them a lot more in bad publicity than they would reasonably make from a lawsuit. I guarantee someone at Disney is doing or already has done the calculations.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t exactly call that a deep dive.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The channel is for 5-year-olds, they would drown in a real deep dive

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Easy: „If you want to learn more check out our second channel where we explain in depth how we approached this topic, the technology used and what we learned.“

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago
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