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I've been toying with Linux on and off for almost 20 years now.

Started with damnsmalllinux on some ancient 600mhz Thinkpads. Dual booted Ubuntu for a long time, back when 3d desktop cubes were all the rage, so I'm used to gnome, synaptic and apt.

Tried to stick with it, but never could get away from Windows entirely. Especially for gaming, and a few critical apps. Eventually I kind of drifted away, and went full Windows for years. I always keep an Ubuntu LTS thumb drive around, and would use it occasionally for various reasons, testing etc etc.

Recently I installed Ubuntu 24.04, and had tons of stability issues. Mostly involving video output and the GUI. Screen would jitter left and right a few pixels. And sometimes maximized windows would be transparent to clicks, so you'd be clicking random stuff below the window. This was especially bad with Firefox and VLC, separately. I also had issues with removable drives not mounting properly. Standard stuff, I wasn't doing anything weird. Practically a fresh install.

So I tried Mint, cinnamon. And so far I really like it! I've not been running it daily, but just the same tinkering. And so far no issues at all. But that got me thinking, what else am I missing?

I'm comfortable in the command line, but not proficient, I appreciate a good GUI for most things.

I plan to do some gaming, so steam proton compatibility is important. I don't think that's hard to achieve, but I wanted to make sure, it's important to me.

Last time I played with KDE was a decade ago, I hear there's lots of new developments going on there? In plasma? Unless plasma is different now, IDK I haven't looked extremely hard.

I don't care much about customization, I don't want arch. I want something that is a pretty solid base, with decent features, and good support for when this go sideways. I feel like that's not Ubuntu anymore. Especially with them pushing into Wayland and flat packs.

I guess my question is, does Mint seem like a good distro to start with? Or am I not looking hard enough?

Thanks!

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

LMDE or plain Mint. Or just go for Debian.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I’ve been pretty content with Fedora for a while.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

+1 for mint. I've been using pop, zorin and manjaro, but since I've used mint I completely switched to daily driving it on my personal devices and my gaming PC, even going so far that I got it installed on the company laptop 👍

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Mint is amazing and frankly if its working for you then I think you've found it. I stayed on mint for a long time until I relented to a nagging friend and tried out NIxOS and was amazed. If you have the technical skills and feel confident to push through the inital difficulty its well well worth it.

So whats the good?

  1. Reproducibility. Ever been annoyed that someone cant help you because they either dont have the time or just cant reproduce the problem? Its no longer an issue. Dependancy is managed by design so configuration and state is transferable with as little as only two files.
  2. Declarative. Best way to decibe this is all the benefits of Arch and zero of the problems. Declare your configuration in a file and then have a life. Ive never saved so much time before with any distro. Imaging installing windows, configuring the OS, installing apps, configuring them only once, ever, never having to do that again. Reinstalls go straight back to the way you like it.
  3. Reliable. Ive never had a linux distro so stable. The risk and pain of change is a thing of the past.
  4. Largest and most up to date repo. Its simply unmatched.
  5. The list goes on to other areas like security, scalability and much more but lets leave it there.

Whats the bad?

  1. Difficulty of entry. You need to have basic understanding on writting basic code to some degree as you define your config as a simple text file. I recommend vimjoyer on youtube he has some great simple intro videos that will help here.
  2. Using apps not in the repo. You will need to step up your config skills here to install that weird app you want. That is only unless you cant wait. If you have time the community is fantastic, a quick app request on the repo has a great chance of being picked up by some legend and added to the repo officially.
  3. The wiki, its no Arch wiki, thankfully you dont really need it. The community maintains a bunch of configs for hardware and apps on the repo which is weirdly not advertised half as much as it should be. Alternatively just search github for configs from other nixians.
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, nixos is great in some aspects, but a newcomer will be very displeased with a lot of nix specific things. And having quite bad documentation is no help either.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What's your GPU? Nvidia's you will need to use the proprietary drivers, AMD it depends on how old it is but newer ones should be good with the default driver.

From the issues you mentioned on Ubuntu I think it's likely you have an Nvidia since it doesn't play completely nice with Wayland all of the time, which sucks because X11 is halfway out of the window.

Another thing I think you probably know but just in case, you can install different Desktop Environments on the same distro, no need to change distros for that. So you could install Plasma (and yes, Plasma is KDE) or Gnome on your existing mint installation.

Honestly I think Mint is great for beginners and if you're happy with it there's no reason to switch. One thing I always recommend though is keeping /home in a separate partition so you can reinstall or switch distros without deleting your data.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

A bit late to the party here. These are my two cents based on my own experiences

Mint:

I'm currently running Mint on my work laptop. It's rock solid, never had any problems. Apt is good, Flatpak and Brew had everything else I needed. I love Cinnamon and I like that minimal tinkering is needed.

Bazzite:

I have a big gaming laptop running Bazzite. I mostly use it to stream games to my shitty small laptop to have a poor-man's Steam Deck. I am really impressed! Everything was just setup and working out of the box. I like the immutable concept. Everything is running in Flatpak and Brew. I can add Distrobox if anything else is needed. And rpm-ostree if I really need a program running "on the system". Haven't bothered tinkering with anything (other than changing wallpaper) because I liked it out of the box. One problem is documentation. There's just so much documentation written for non-immutable distros which won't work, since immutable distros works differently.

OpenSUSE Tumbleweed:

I have a small 11" Chromebook with touch screen. ChromeOS was EOL on it, and Tumbleweed and Arch were the only viable option. Went with Tumbleweed just to check it out. I'm not impressed. I hate the package manager, and the settings are all over the place. I don't really see the appeal and I much prefer EndeavourOS. With that said, it works. So I haven't bother changing distro. Everyone seems to love it, but I don't get the hype. Probably a me-problem.

EndeavourOS

It's baby's first Arch. It's just Arch with sane defaults and everything set up for you. I love aur and I love that any program you may think of is just running on Arch. Endless possibilities for tinkering. I loved it, but not currently running it. I do wish I had it on my Chromebook but I haven't bothered with the jump. I have broken it a couple of times. 100% my fault messing around with stuff I shouldn't have messed with. But it was never that hard to fix. And the wiki is AMAZING! If you don't do stupid shit, there won't be a problem.

Debian

Running it on my home server. Rock solid stuff. Great for running a server that doesn't require bleeding edge and which is just super solid and extremely well documented.

Manjaro:

Stay the fuck away from that stupid shit distro. It almost bricked my laptop and required tons of work to get back up and running. They do stupid shit and the way they hold back packages is just stupid. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Just go with EndeavourOS or Geruda or something.

Ubuntu

No. Just run Mint

NixOS

Really really cool, but you need a bachelor's in Linux and a lot of time to really reap the benefits of it. Shit documentation.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I would say Fedora workstation if you hate the idea of getting arch-like distros but Manjaro if you just dislike the daunting procedures to get your arch work

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I settled on Manjaro over the past year but since arch isn’t in consideration, I’d vote fedora or a derivative like bazzite due to its additions for gaming.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I ditched Windows for a year ago and have been happy user of Linux Mint since then. It’s solid, nice and easy to use. I don’t like much of customization, all I want is easy to use and solid system and Mint with Cinnamon is all that. Years ago I was distro hopping around but now I don’t need that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Debian's pretty good, or if you need something a bit newer, OpenSUSE Tumbleweed seems pretty good as well in terms of a beginner's distro.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm tossing in another vote for Fedora. It's honestly about the closest you'll get to "Standard Linux".

It's one of the most bleeding-edge distros while still being very stable and secure (Rolling Releases are more up-to-date but I've had enough issues with them). Traditionally a Gnome-First Distro but the word is that the next release will promote KDE alongside Gnome (That said KDE is already great on it).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Fedora gang! 🤝

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Gnome with extensions like dock to panel and arcmenu (need those two at least but with them its pretty near perfect), or kde plasma are your best bet, plasmas almost too easily customizable I find myself messing with it a lot.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Cachyos works perfectly fine for me, it installs all the packages has a cachyos steam compatibility thing, just works for everything, had to install blender off the official site because the aur package has issues and had to grab those amd drivers seperately but thats about it

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you want immutable go bazzite, cachyos I initially dualbooted before erasing my whole drive and reinstalling because I didnt want to deal with windows ever again, piracy is harder, other than that everything I use works.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Thanks for the recommendations! I've gotten a lot for bazzite, and a few for CachyOS.

I'll be honest bazzite is looking better and better, but with CachyOS at least I could say I use arch btw lol

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Honestly, Debian 12 bookworm with the KDE package is pretty damn solid. It's all I need for my desktops.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Another vote for basic Debian. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Wayland is the future, and the present. I wouldn't shy away from it. I've been using it for years with multi-monitor and multi-gpu, it beats the hell out of having to dink with X11 about once a week to keep my screens in the right place.

And with X11 pretty much on life support, it's time. And Mint isn't the distro to do that on.

Ubuntu doesn't push flatpaks, they push Snaps. But Ubuntu has a ton of other issues, so YMMV. It might be the one for you, who knows.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I appreciate that, thanks for the insight. I guess I wasn't sure that it was that much better or necessary, and l know I've read a lot about incompatibility. But, if that's where everything is going, and it's better, then I'm willing to suffer through the growing pains.

Yeah thanks I was confusing snaps with flatpaks 👍

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I use Mint for my main gaming PC, FWIW, totally rock solid

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Good to know!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I highly recommend openSUSE Tumbleweed (or Slowroll). It is a rock-solid rolling-release where most things can be done from the YaST GUI. The installer is very granular, you can pick and choose based on groups of programs (like internet, office, desktop environment, etc) or individual packages (in advanced mode).

It has never broke on me and I have used it on and off for several years now. I like to tinker so I often do reinstalls of other distros when I break them but never needed to with Tumbleweed.

It is modern but not unfamiliar, rolling but not unstable, granular but not overwhelming (imho).

If rolling-release isn't your thing there is also openSUSE Slowroll which does updates monthly (apart from security updates which are back ported)

Even if you don't pick Tumbleweed, there are plenty of good options. Rapid fire I'll recommend some others.

  • Fedora Workstation: my next favorite distros for many of the same reasons as Tumbleweed, semi-rolling and major updates every 6 months, but no YaST or granular installer. It uses GNOME desktop environment.

  • Fedora Atomic: pretty much Fedora Workstation but more stable because the root filesystem is read-only and updates are pushed as an OCI image. You can still install anything supported by Fedora.

  • Universal Blue: Modified versions of Fedora Atomic which aim to be much more user-friendly and preconfigured out of the box. I recommend them over Fedora Atomic vanilla images. Bazzite is my recommendation for any gamer on Linux (though most distros work).

If you want to have a good experience on Linux, avoid perpetually out of date distros like Debian/Ubuntu and their derivatives. Linux game support is always improving, same thing with basically everything, so dont kneecap yourself with slow/stable release distros.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Interesting! First mention of opensuse I think. I've always heard of it but never checked it out.

The Fedora recommendations are really stacking up though. A lot of emphasis is being put on the benefits of being up to date. I hadn't realized it was that important, but I'm inclined to believe it.

Thanks for the recommendations! What are your thoughts on bazzite? Being Fedora atomic based.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'll second tumbleweed. I use it on 4 separate devices and its rarely given me any issues. If it does, it has built-in recovery snapshots - it takes 30 seconds to roll back a bad update.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We've been on similar journeys. I started with Ubuntu Warty Warthog and happily remember all the desktop effects lost to time (emerald window decorations anybody?). I went through a Windows phase and settled back into Linux. My newest epoch is the age of self hosting and I've been learning a lot especially since the advent of Lemmy. I also play games, but I've been using a fully segregated Windows PC for that, though I've used Linux in the past.

The last time someone asked this question a lot of people said Mint packages are too out of date. I love Mint, I used Mint for several years, but the graphic driver stuff seems to depend on being very up to date. Someone else could probably explain it better than me. Perhaps it's not relevant anymore, but I would look into it.

As for KDE, it's really good now. I used to cling HARD to Gnome back in the old days and really disliked KDE, but things really got shaken up and KDE has been absurdly good for a few releases now. The steam deck even uses it. Also, a lot more distros seem to have releases for more than one desktop environment now. I guess what I'm trying to say is stuff you used to like may suck now and stuff that used to suck could be S-tier. Good luck getting back into Linux. Don't get discouraged. It's gotten a lot easier since old timers like us were hacking around on Ubuntu in the early 2000s.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Nice! I think my first Ubuntu was Feisty Fawn, though it may have been Edgy Eft. I definitely remember Feisty Fawn, but Edgy looks similar and I may have had it first 🤷‍♂️

At any rate, Hardy Heron was my daily driver, no windows backup, for at least a year at the time, probably more. I really gave it a go haha.

As to Mint being out of date, this is the first I'm hearing of it so thank you. Another commenter actually gave some more detail, so I think I'll look into it a bit deeper.

Yeah I was the same way with KDE, tried it, never liked it, always liked gnome. But it's interesting that kde has improved so much. I'm willing to try new things, so I guess we'll see!

Thanks for the encouragement and the information!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I wanna new distro
One that won't make me sick
One that won't make me crash my PC
Or make me feel like a d**k
I want a new distro
One that won't hurt my head
One that won't make run CPU too high
Or make my NAS disks RED

One that won't make me defrag
Watching squares of blue
One that makes me feel like I feel when I use UNIX too...
When I get to boooot you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

I entirely ditched Windows for good for about 1.5 year now (I'm new to Linux and have no prior experience with Linux before that) but for me it's pretty smooth transition because I also ditched proprietary softwares and learn to use open source softwares, also stop play games that use kernel level anticheat

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I use mint on my daily-driver/gaming-rig/mediaserver. I've been a Linux user for 20 years, eventually you just want a normal distro with sane defaults. Mint is wonderful.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I am at 15 years and couldn’t agree more about having a distro with sane defaults. Mint is my 2nd choice behind Fedora.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yet another vote for Mint! I'm going to test drive all of these, but so far I think I'm tied between mint/lmde and bazzite.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Funny you say that, I dual boot Bazzite and Mint, for gaming and everything else including programming, respectively.

Bazzite is a pain to install and use CLI applications in, but it's got a great default setup for gaming!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Objectively bazzite is much better for beginners, the mint crowd is a bit out of date, here's why:

bazzite is immutable, that means it updates a core system all at once with previous versions easily selectable if something breaks.

there are more advantages to immutability, and one of those is that bazzite has significantly more up to date software, this matters for a huge number of reasons, bazzite has a much more up to date desktop with vastly improved features. Mint will also hold these features back for much longer because if something goes wrong it's catastrophic, whereas for bazzite you'd just revert to the previous version. Not that it's likely for anything to go wrong.

Back in the day mint was the best choice, but now that this innovation has spread bazzite is just better, and the mint people haven't updated their choice/preference. I honestly think there's no objective reason to recommend mint over bazzite to beginners.

Bazzite is also more secure because it's sandboxed ontop of being less likely to catastrophically fail because of immutability.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Interesting, this is the first I've heard of Mint being behind the curve on updates.

I do like the idea of bazzite, and I understand that you can do a lot of stuff without worrying about immutability getting in your way. But I do worry it might be a bit TOO hand holdy?

I'm not a Linux newbie, I know how to get dirty if I need to. I just want something nice and stable, to minimize the need to, if that makes sense 🤷‍♂️

But still, I'm not a guru, I've messed things up hard enough to need to reinstall before. Even though theoretically you shouldn't need to do that🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

But I do worry it might be a bit TOO hand holdy?

There's nothing you can't do because of it. Bazzite specifically has rpm-ostree which means basically anything you can do on a non-immutable distro you can do on it. There's no real downside. If you decide to get dirty and fuck up in a way you don't know how to fix/don't want to learn, you can rollback, on mint, you'll have to reinstall.

You can still learn to do these things on bazzite, they just aren't mandatory.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

That's really good to know thanks, I guess I need to do some more research into how exactly it works. I'm not informed on rpm-ostree yet. But I'll take your word for it, and take it into consideration!

Definitely leaning heavily towards bazzite right now.

Of course I'm gonna do my due diligence and at least test out most of these distros. But look and feel only get you so far, so I appreciate the input of what's under the hood!

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