These charts are pretty bad put a little more effort in
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Yea, in hindsight the original (https://old.reddit.com/r/BuyFromEU/comments/1jcr8ks/here_is_the_new_and_improved_guide_to_help_you/) was not worth sharing.
New version still misspells it "Mastadon" haha
Master Don.
Why Waterfox over LibreWolf? I have only used LibreWolf, which is my 99%-of-the-time browser, and I am curious.
Why not use something like Matrix (Element) as a messenger alternative?
I found it difficult to transfer contacts there compared to signal, but you're right, it's better.
Again, add Matrix or xmpp instead of just Signal & Disroot as well in the email section
Spotify shouldn't be on this list... They exploit artists and platform joe rogans horseshit for profit
Qobuz is great though, they also provide lossless music which Spotify still don’t.
And i think they donated money to Trump also.
Honest question, is Switzerland a part of the EU now, or do they just get a pass for being surrounded?
@RvTV95XBeo @SrMono No, but what is your gripe? Located in Europe. Spend most of their money in Europe and have the same general mentality. Strongly focused on privacy.
They are not an official member, but being surrounded by EU countries lead to them being included in a lot of treaties and such.
Oftentimes they are considered friendly.
Even in the 1930/40s?
That is offtopic 😂
Where's the part suggesting getting off social media altogether, and stocking up on guns, ammo, and cans of beans?
@skeptomatic @SrMono You find that aplenty over on Matrix...
And in other communities. Also you misspelled beer.
Is Waterfox the most recommended Firefox alternative nowadays after the recent Firefox controversy?
Also not sure I would call Proton privacy focused. I still use it, but they have been rating out an environment activist to French authorities before.
No Threema?
Unfortunately, Threema will never be a real alternative because of the price tag. There are just too many good alternative that are for free. For example, Element is European, privacy-wise good and for free.
Xmpp ?
That is a nice protocol. If you are interested in messenger then translate this page via an extension https://www.kuketz-blog.de/die-grosse-messenger-uebersicht-kompakt-kritisch-direkt/
In what way is mastodon privacy focused?
Well, the flyer originated here: https://old.reddit.com/r/BuyFromEU/comments/1jcr8ks/here_is_the_new_and_improved_guide_to_help_you/ but mastodon stands out as it has no commercial driver. There aren't any ad-services profiling you, so that is a big win for your privacy.
There aren’t any ad-services profiling you
There's no way to know that.
Yeah, but all your data is public, everyone can see it
You can set a deletion time and hope that every client comply with that :-)
After switching your search engine, hop into your European time-machine and go back to February to continue this guide.
Idk who you are talking to 😂 The overview originated on reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/BuyFromEU/comments/1jcr8ks/here_is_the_new_and_improved_guide_to_help_you/
Kmail suite for mails, cloud... (Switzerland ) they have a free plan (15GO for the cloud, and the cheapest paid plan is 2e/month for 1TO (20e/year ).
Threema for discussions (Switzerland) . the application is 5e, definitv not cheap for an app, but it is a one time paiement.
Swisscows (Switzerland), mullvad Leta (Sweden) as search engine.
=> they do not use their own index system but brave or google (you can choose for mullvad)
All those options are Europeans and have strong privacy policies.
@SrMono isn't bluesky also US owned
Absolutely, and they evaluate training AI on user content. It's just a stopgap solution, I would always recommend mastodon instead.
Orion is not a paid browser. Kagi, however, is a paid search engine, and Orion was made by the Kagi team. The browser is completely free and is in all Apple OSs (coming to Linux soon) and gathers absolutely no data. And the browser comes with no search engine chosen by default so it isn’t really an ad for Kagi.
I personally think it’s amazing especially how you can have both Firefox and Chrome extensions on it. Its only issue is it being proprietary.
Orion was really well made. It is still beta, but when it is more stable, I'll give it a second go! 100% recommended.
Ecosia also has a browser for Android and Windows/Mac. Just not Linux. Vivaldi is great for Linux.
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