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history rhymes, or something (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Is this a science meme? Am I on Reddit?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

The more things change…

[–] [email protected] 147 points 2 weeks ago (24 children)

Let's see...

Nazism
McCarthyism
Vietnam War
Racial Injustice
South African Apartheid
Occupy Wall Street
Gaza Genocide
etc.

I am curious. Has there ever been a wide-scale student protest movement that WASN'T unequivocally vindicated by history?

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Given enough time, we were always going to have right wing authoritarians back in power.

But call me an idealist, I didn't think it would be actual Nazi sympathizers. Thought the brand was appropriately tarnished what with the Holocaust.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago

Thought the brand was appropriately tarnished what with the Holocaust.

I wish I had the faith in humanity you have

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yes, yes, every piece slowly falls into place. *Cue maniacal villain laughter

It's like they actually studied history, to try and replicate the desired results as identically as possible. Or they didn't, at all, and this is just 2+2=4 scenario but with history.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Didn’t the USA join a war against some Nazis?

[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Not unprovoked and not for 5 more years. Germany declared war on the US. Until Pearl Harbor, the US was quite neutral.

Edit: correct 4 to 5

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

They were about as “neutral” as they were in the Ukraine conflict under Biden.

They were selling loads of weapons at discount prices and supporting the allies in many ways.

You’re right though that the US public was generally against joining the war, and the US as a whole, tended to be quite isolationist until Pearl Harbour.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

The USA made a hell of a lot of money off weapons sold to the allies. It created the USA industrial farming system.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

They were selling weapons to both sides. GM controlled Opel until the 1940s, they built a lot of the nazi war machine (using forced labor), the Ford-Werke factory in Germany produced V2 rocket turbines among other parts, and US strategic bombers were specifically told to avoid bombing it because it was owned by an american, Exxon and Dow licensed patents for synthetic rubber and other war materials Germany lacked, Chase provided loans necessary for the rearmament, IBM sold the nazis the computers they used to carry out the holocaust.

The capitalist class looked at fascism as the savior of capitalism; they'd been terrified of a revolution in Germany and Hitler had just shown them an alternative. There's a reason he was Time's man of the year in 1938.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Adolf Hilter was Time's Person of the Year in 1938. Joseph Stalin was 1939.

Source: https://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,2019712,00.html

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

Good catch, I have edited it accordingly. Real "giving the nobel peace prize to Henry Kissinger and the guys he is currently dropping chemical weapons on" vibes.

Also: Holy shit, Chiang Kai-Shek is there for 1937.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Person of the year is not a honorific. It just means most important or influential.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Time Magazine Person of the Year is for the most influential person of the year. Not the best, or most admirable. Merely the greatest agent of change.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Wow

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Weren't they revoking degrees now for protestors? Anyone who considers Columbia a real school at this point is incurable.

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