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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Later on: the employee who does extra work will make the employee who does the bare minimum getting fired, but he doesn't get a wage increase. He will however complain about "lazy" people like immigrants, the disabled, etc. instead.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Hard work is rewarded with additional responsibilities and tasks for no additional benefit. What is the point?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Using optimistic numbers from my workplace--

Is an extra 3% a year worth the 20% more work you're doing?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Considering I've reached the point where for the first time in my life at the end a 2 week cycle SOMETHING is left over even if just a little bit? Yes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

The key is to look like you are doing 20% more work, but not actually do 20% more work. Of course that only works in certain cases.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

A lot of us "do the bare minimum" do the bare minimum because of all of the time in the past we spent going the extra mile only to be rewarded with ever greater expectations for identical compensation and opportunity.

They made us this way.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

No sympathy for them. No mercy!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Or in my case, get singled out by a manager from another department for no reason, who then gaslights the other managers into thinking I don't do shit when I'm the only person in my section that even does anything at all. Go through the whole "try to make them quit" playbook but never do anything wrong so they can't fire me. I would have outlasted all those fuckers if circumstance hadn't forced me to move out of state.

Pretty sure they just wanted to eliminate my full-time position to save money.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Isn't this socialism? 😜

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(Joking! before anyone hurts me)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

My rule at work has always been based around the bears and hikers analogy. You dont have to be the best at what you do. Just dont be the worst.

Also some jobs afford opportunities for non-conventional self-education. If you can learn useful personal or professional skills while at working, do it, and under the guise of work.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Some people are passionate about always doing the best they can, and they get a great deal of satisfaction from it. I love being excellent at what I do.

I don't have a wife or kids. My jobs are a huge part of my identity. Heck - my night job teaching is something I do because I want to do it, not for the little bit of extra money.

But I also know that I'm weird. Most people just want to do their job and go home to their families, and that's great. They're doing the job, so they should be compensated every bit as much as the people like me who are devoted to their work.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I inderstand fully. I used ti go through the same. At the same time I noticed a big difference when i got married. And a huge one when i had kids. Having a child and being responsible for it is a life changing situation. I tell my self that i became an adult not when i turned 18 but when i became a parent. When this happened to me, my perspective about work stoped revolving about being the best, and turbed to be just and help others be better. That made me soon to realize that those 2 cannot get always together.

Tldr: work 2 live > live 2 work

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nah, I get it. I'm much the same way - I don't do things half assed - just not made that way.

That said, I'm also not going to eat the corporate brainwashing gruel. The higher up you go the more you see people just flat accept stupid corporate decisions as 'enlightened' and they heavily adopt the corporate lexicon. Who needs a critical eye when you fit in?

Fuck that noise.

While I realize there are rules, structures, and culture in place. They shouldn't hinder people. IDGAF about how someone does something as long as the product is technically sound, reads like Tolstoy, and was efficiently created.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I work a shit ton of OT, but I get paid 1.5x or 2x based on circumstances for that extra time

I deliver the same quality of work on ST and OT—my best, but I would never work unpaid OT (e.g. some of my salaried engineers have been living at the job during our system upgrades) or do things well beyond the scope of my job.

Fuck that

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Profit sharing fixes all of this because it provides incentives for everyone to go the extra mile so they can make more money.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah, but those profits could go to the shareholders!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

"But you could get bonuses each pay period up to $100"... which after taxes comes to about $60, after union dues $58. Extra stress and work that makes you more than $100k more a year is not worth $720/yr to me thank you. Give me percentage and we'll talk.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

One of my 1st employers had "extra mile" coupons. Originally worth 7.50 in store credit, then 5, then they disappeared. This was a company that was charging 6 dollars for asparagus water.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

yea just throw some leftover asparagus in some water and see if yuppies buy it for 6 bucks (16oz).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Asparagus is expensive - I got a 6 pack of NoName hotdogs that's been in my fridge for over a month- brb...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Do you have any starfish and chocolate, per chance?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

If you see me going the extra mile, it's probably the side-effects of me using the company's resources to learn and do crazy experiments for my own gain.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

It depends on the company and how they treat your job, but mostly as a worker you are there to fulfill a company's requirement. Unless there's a position or incentive to go that extra mile, don't, most companies will never see it. Even if you want to do the extra work for yourself, I'd recommend to find a way to do it as a hobby if it's unrewarded, separate from work.

What they will see is the absence in case they do need it, and then they will be required to fulfill it, although they may not want to focus on better and more empowered workers with higher expectations and may instead just focus on quantity over quality by hiring more people to fill it. Even worse, don't be the guy who makes his (and other's) jobs obsolete to scummy bosses.

Open your eyes, you aren't in school, you aren't getting rewarded for better grades at work unless they make it part of the business and your bosses stick to it and not just plugging in friends, buddies, and associates.

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