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Obesity has become the most common form of malnutrition in the majority of countries (english.elpais.com)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 7 months ago (34 children)

Just a few things come to mind :

Lobbyists stopping sugar taxes.
Big Pharma and health industry making tons of money.
European Union being very tolerant about pesticides.
Supermarkets putting candy close the counters where parents with kids are in queue.
Lots of people spending most of their time on mobile phones only exercising the muscles of their eyes.

I am happy that an organisation like Foodwatch exists : https://www.foodwatch.org/en/foodwatch-international

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (3 children)

But we can't seem to feed all children 3 meals a day in the US.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's really frustrating, in my country not only are we the most obese in the region, we're also the most diabetic. A huge double whammy that's burdening the healthcare system

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago

Capitalism has brought prosperity and wealth to rational actors across the entire globe!

[–] [email protected] 156 points 7 months ago (8 children)

It's hard to find "fit" people anymore. Walking around some grocery stores is mind blowing. I honestly feel bad for people. The "food" we have is shit and life is getting busier and busier.

[–] [email protected] 117 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Something I haven't seen other commenters bring up that can have a huge impact, is the overall lifestyles people are living.

The unhealthiest years of my life were when I was working 2 jobs and struggling to keep a roof over mine and my 3 kids heads. Stress and depression were huge problems and money was tight, so sometimes the little bit of dopamine or serotonin from eating a "treat" were the highlights of the day. Add to that, the guilt of not being around to cook regular meals for my kids lead to 1) making large amounts of food on my one day off that could be eaten as leftovers throughout the week or 2) easy convenience foods (frozen pizzas, boxed Mac and cheese, etc) that the kids could make when I wasn't around.

Fast forward many years - my kids are adults taking care of themselves and I'm down to 1 good job that offers financial stability. My diet and health have completely changed. I actually have the time and energy to cook and plan better.

I'm not saying this to shift blame or responsibility, but to bring a different experience. When I hear (hopefully well meaning) people suggest "just cook healthier meals" it strikes me about the same as "stop eating avocado toast and you could afford a house."

[–] [email protected] 59 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (23 children)

Lack of free time to cook healthy food with a busier and more expensive life with salary raises that don't keep up with inflation or layoffs for many people definitely doesn't help. Healthy food ends up costing twice as much, if not more than unhealthy food. It's a multi-faceted problem and should be treated as such.

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[+] [email protected] -6 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I imagine it would be pretty easy to take the list of what people buy/eat and their health issues and see clearly what foods are causing what health problems.

I bet the average cashier would even be able to point out the worst products.

But never, ever, will that happen. Grocery store is full of dead animals and animal proteins and cancer look to go hand in hand. The other big one is sugar. People are hooked on it like cocaine.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (7 children)

It's not just any regular sugar, it's that high fructose corn syrup that's the killer. Consuming a bit of sugar here and there isn't that bad, but consuming something that is foreign to the body and accumulates in the liver is a whole new level of fucked up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

yeah, It's processed sugars like HFCS. It is not the same as sugar found in whole foods. Like cocaine is not the same as the plant it comes from.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Farmer: Scratches crazily Y'all got any more of them corn subsidies?

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

The healthy food options are also usually twice the cost too.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (3 children)

This is so fucking false its hilarious.

It's cooking -- cooking is cheaper. Cooking anything is cheaper than buying boxes.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Until you go on vacation to a "poor" country where it suddenly costs virtually nothing.

Are Avocados a conspiracy?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Domestically produced crops tend to be much cheaper. Think corn in the US. The stuff is so cheap they even turn much of it into sugar for foods and ethanol for cars.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 7 months ago (9 children)

ditch all the sugar drinks and drink plane old water, like out the toilet.

Rice and beans can be made in 1000 different ways. $1/lb uncooked.

Eating out is almost never a healthy option.

Healthy and expensive don't correlate in my outlook. I spend less eating better. Factor in not eating out and my pockets are fat, but not my ass.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Too many people think eating healthy means broccoli needs to be 100% of your calories.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Eating out is almost never a healthy option.

This is a big deal people often don't realize. Even something as simple as an alfredo pasta will have way too much butter in it when you order it at a restaurant. (Why do you think it tastes so good?) An entire stick of butter for a single serving is quite common.

Not only is cooking for yourself significantly cheaper than ordering food, you are also significantly more aware of the calories you are putting into the food.