Does it count as European if it was trained on content ~~stolen~~ "fair used" from all around the world?
this post was submitted on 13 Mar 2025
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Well by this metric nothing counts as made in country or region x,y,z because there is alwqys either some sort of theft or "inspiration" involved. Don't get me wrong, I despise the way these companies basically got around copyright to the disadvantage of the artists and authors making the content, while I am not even allowed to make a copy of what I own or get it someway when it isn't in sale anymore...
I use it as well, but keep an eye out for Schmidt.
They also partnered with Microsoft on 26 February 2024
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistral_AI#Partnership_with_Microsoft
Who is this Schmidt person you are talking about? I am just asking out of curiosity.
Eric Schmidt. Investor in Mistral, ex-CEO of Google. Asshole with no bottom in sight.
Oh right, the guy that says we should forget about our climate goals because AI will solve them.
Oh no, that is truly terrible. Still, every company in our capitalist world has at least a few (sometimes literal) corpses in their basements. Trust me on that, I am German...
Fanta, Puma, Adidas and Hugo Boss are nothing compared to an alive and fresh billionaire from the US.
Yes that is true even though Fanta is part of the Coca Cola company whose execs are still alive and it's still an american company. We do have lots of better tasting and sonewhat healthier alternatives for that in Germany or Europe as a whole.
True and true. I don't count Fanta as German anymore though. Am I wrong to do so?
No you are not wrong, while it had originated in Germany during a certain time period involving an Austrian painter, it is still a Coca Cola product. So just buy the higher quality and better tasting alternatives.
I switched as well. Additionally I was only using free gpt, and now have a Mistral subscription. Extra support for a growing EU company and better rates.
I'm going to switch as well, when my subscription on openai is up.
How are mistrals reasoning models?
Afaik Mistral doesn't have a reasoning model atm
That sucks.
I've been using it for a few days as well, I honestly don't notice a difference. I wasn't a chat gpt power user to begin with. So all of the upsides of switching without any of the downsides, sounds good to me!
I started using Le Chat a few weeks ago, also inspired by the Buy From EU initiative.
While I'm missing some creature comforts (memory, projects), the experience is good enough for me to switch. I've canceled my Chat GPT subscription because of it. Remember to export your data from OpenAI. It gives you a raw dump of all your conversations and customizations.
I may need to 'retune' my prompting because I was getting slightly better responses with o3 for coding. Also a warmer tone in conversation. But it wasn't enough to stop me from moving over.
I just hope that features like memory or a general inprovement in quality of answers, tone of messages etc will be brought to Le Chat over time once the programme gets patched further. Thank you for the tip to export my data from open AI