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[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He took office in December, so this is entirely the fault of Peronism and doesn't have anything to do with Milei yet.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

One of the things Faux News did to build up Trump was to show the unemployment rate when Trump had 100 days in office and compare it with Obama. Obama came in after the 2008 meltdown and had [apx] 10% unemployment at 100 days. Trump came in after eight years of Obama and had [apx] 4%.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Yeah, people love to look at who's in the White/Pink House and think everything since the day he took office was single-handedly caused by him.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (3 children)

In my experience, Conservatives usually don't do anything to improve the income levels of working class people.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

There are other options than laissez-faire capitalism or communism.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Tbf, Milei isn't a conservative, he's a genuine AnCap, which is somehow even more pathetic. He's tearing down everything in general, rather than trying to entrench Capitalist Power via fascism.

Not saying this won't lead to fascism, there's a large chance it does, but rather than moving directly towards fascism, Miley is moving directly towards destruction of government, which will likely result in an acceleration of Capitalism to fascism.

Edit: conservativism is terrible, but grouping AnCaps in with conservatives is like saying aspens are oak trees. Both are unique brands of stupid, but one of em has a MAGA hat and the other has a gadsden flag tattooed to their ass. Recognizing the differences between types of reactionary is useful.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

If I was Argentinian, I'd move to Patagonia and be a wildman.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

In January. March is happening now, Argentina just went back to school, well, at least those who could afford it.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Why does their president's haircut make him look like a 1980's film star

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

If you're talking about his hair, you're not discussing his policies. He's derailing the dialogue before it can happen, and all he has to do is deliberately look like an idiot.

"Haha, jokes on them. I only wear this haircut to look stupid ironically!"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Ah yes, the "Boris Johnson gambit"

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

I read somewhere (sorry no sauce but it seemed informed) that it's a deliberate choice by him to appeal to working class boomers or something. Did you all know that a medium channeled his deceased dog which in turn told him to run for president?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 8 months ago

Because he has 1980’s economic policy.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thatcherism works everybody

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nah, Milei is not peronist.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And Milei didn't cause this. He was in office maybe a month at this point? And the poverty rate had already rapidly risen from 40% to 50% in the six months prior under Fernández.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

49% but yes

[–] [email protected] 79 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I know it doesn't work like that but I think it's mildly interesting

  • 57% of Argentina population is 25MM people
  • 12% of USA pop (amount who live in poverty) is 38MM people
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The issue is a lot harder to ignore when the person to your right and the person to your left is starving to death.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Things got bad the last few years, but the hunger index is still only 6.4.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, it doesn’t matter that the U.S. has more people living in poverty as what matters is the relative amount of the total population.

I know you know, but thought I’d say it just in case someone else didn’t get why you said “it doesn’t work this way”

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You're right from a hard-statistical point of view, but from a casual, layman conversation I think it is, as I said, mildly interesting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

It definitely is interesting :)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

why is anything interesting? It just is.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Because the US has several million more people living below a certain level of income, experiencing a daily misery but it's somewhat excusable because the ratio is smaller.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I dont know the metrics, but I assume poverty means different things in each country. I would think poverty in a second world country means that people are at a state where they have a hard time getting enough food.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I would grant that even if the metrics were measured largely the same way you could argue or even observe that experience would be meaningfully different in some ways.

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