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Secretary of State Marco Rubio said on Monday that Ukraine would have to make concessions over land that Russia had taken since 2014 as part of any agreement to end the war.

Mr. Rubio spoke as he was flying to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, for talks with senior Ukrainian officials, and 10 days after a contentious White House meeting between President Trump and his Ukrainian counterpart, Volodymyr Zelensky. The Trump administration halted military aid to Ukraine after the blowup, which centered on Mr. Trump’s refusal to include any security guarantees in a proposed deal involving Ukraine’s natural resources.

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 2 months ago (19 children)

Imagine a hypothetical scenario in which Mexico invades the United States, takes complete control over the state of New Mexico, and right in the middle of the conflict Great Britain says "the war needs to end", drafts a ceasefire proposal that allows them take control of half of the country's natural resources, and offers no security guarantees in the event that Mexico decides to attack again. If you refuse, the British will stop sending military aid to help you continue fighting. Oh, and Mexico gets to keep New Mexico.

Who in their right fucking mind thinks that this is a good deal? Any sensible person would rather continue fighting than give up their advantage for some flimsy ceasefire that won't stand up to an invader hellbent on conquest.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I don't see any peace deal unless there is security guarantees, it is not peace without guarantees.

This just embolden russia to rape Ukraine again for more lands. Marco Rubio is promoting a forever war.

Ukraine guarantees were taken away when the nukes were taken away.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Why do you put stock in security guarantees now?

Ukraine had security "guarantees" when Russia invaded because they gave up their nukes that Western nation have not followed through on.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (15 children)

Memorandum was not really a guarantee. NATO is more of a guarantee, nukes are more of a guarantee. Guarantee means NATO and/or Nukes.

Don't need to believe it will work, Nukes and NATO has worked in the past to maintain peace along russia borders.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

NATO is not a guarantee anymore. Trump openly said that if specific European NATO countries will get attacked by Russia then there will be no response.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 120 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I miss the good old ‘we don’t negotiate with terrorists’ US.

If someone breaks into your house, kicks your dog and rapes your wife, you don’t negotiate to let them keep your TV. You shoot that fucker between the eyes. That’s what we need to be doing.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

‘we don’t negotiate with terrorists’ US.

That US never existed.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

it did in the movies, in here lies the problem.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

id probably just try to suck their dick or something

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

don't rob my house I'm serious

[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I miss the good old ‘we don’t negotiate with terrorists’ US.

Pretty sure that was only a thing in movies.

We negotiate with terrorists all the time.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

US literally funds terrorists, gives them weapons, and gives them CIA training to do terrorism. It's like all these terrorist leaders went to the same school, of Americas.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

Says the same guys who called Putin the victim while talking with Zelensky...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

Rubio is a snowflake bitch. As bad as Americans are right now, we're going to eat him in 2-3 years. Stay strong! Slava Ukraine!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don’t see any peace deal happening that doesn’t involve ceding territory.

That said if I were Zelenskyy I would tell the US to pound sand and find someone else to mediate a more favourable deal, maybe Türkiye.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Türkiye would love to be the nation that resolves this.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Without security guarantees, this isn't a "peace" deal, it's a capitulation and an invitation for future aggression from Russia.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I hope Ukraine doesn’t cede anything at all.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Cede 1 acre of swampland between Crimea and the mainland, somewhere in the middle of it.

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