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I grew up listening to fundie christian parents babble at length how we were living in end times. And mocking them mercilessly (at first among my fiends, later to their faces) as often as possible.

Now look at us - on the brink of non-existence politically, environmentally, and civilizationally. Not sure that last one is a word.

If they were right I'm gonna have some 'splainin to do.

Dammit.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I hope the rapture comes and takes all the good people to heaven so us evil doers can live out or lives not knowing the grace of God!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

If that happens imma stay up late and eat cookies

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

The political craziness is a direct symptom of knowing country/planet is unsustainable. Full desperation to believe anyone that tells you pillaging the world for oligarchy is bestest future somehow.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

No we're definitely all gonna die real soon

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If we're walking into oblivion it's because the christofascists are leading us there. It will be their self fulfilling prophecy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

There is nothing in the IPCC reports that even come close to civilization-ending predictions from climate change.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Climate change alone might not be enough to do it, but do you honestly think we'll get through all the strife it will cause without significant nuclear weapons use?

Climate will drive crop failures, which will cause widespread food insecurity in nations with nukes. Do you really think that we're going to watch nations with nukes endure mass starvation when they could attack another nation and take it's resources?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

First IPCC is a political process with high input from climate terrorists.

You are right that the requirement for ending civilization requires over 95% population decline. Civilization existed in bronze age. Global warming is unlikely to be a near extinction event, as technology to survive, especially for a small population, should keep up.

What should be clear though is mass loss of prosperity and life is a cycle to lose more prosperity.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There’s a conspiracy talk in local mid-eastern/muslim bubbles that Evangelicals seizing every opportunity to team up with Zionists to bring the Rapture as soon as possible.

The talk’s been around since Ottoman times so it’s easy to dismiss, but given between apathy to Israel state’s genocide and Trump’s fast start to his secondary term gives me chills no lie.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Just sayin. These fools are walking right into it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Btw, what made you think we weren't living in the end times?

Edit: Ok i might have to do some explaining.

The way i understand it, we're living in exactly the time period (1800 - 2050?) where people basically figure out all about technology. That puts us in the very special position that we can choose what the future looks like. Such a situation has never been there before. In some sense, god lives on the inside; it's us who will permanently transform the world into its final state. That is the "second coming" and "end times".

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't confuse coincidence for causation. For hundreds of years, people have been harping about the " end times." No 'splaining needed friend.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

More likely hundreds of thousands of years, as long as humans have existed and been able to communicate that to each other.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

Self fulfilling prophecy. It's a doomsday cult and they're trying to bring the end times instead of waiting

When they said we're living in the end times it wasn't a prediction it was a threat

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

If you have the time, I highly recommend the book “American Apocalypse” by Matthew Avery Sutton. Really digs into the history of this whole thing and helps you realize just HOW MUCH of this shit is truly self fulfilling prophecy. I’m currently working up the courage to gift it to my highly evangelical family and forcing them to read it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

If they were right it's because of their ideology. They are the ones denying climate change and the ones supporting Trump. They aren't prophets, they are the problem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I highly recommend the song Apocalypticism by Moon Walker

https://youtu.be/cnkH7_AA_AA

Apocalypticism - a doctrine concerning an imminent end of the world and an ensuing general resurrection and final judgment

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If you predict it's the end times every day for a thousand years, eventually you'll get it right.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Personally, if I die only to find out that the Tyrant is real, I'll gladly walk into hell before I kneel my way into heaven. Fuck their narcissistic, cruel, inhuman monster of a god.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I would expect in that case "hell" is just a lie anyway, like an abuser telling you you can't live without them. It's classic controlling behaviour.

Realising that helped me walk away from the whole thing: Why are we told hell exists if it isn't real? Control.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

Yes it's a death cult and we're locked in the basement.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

“The imaginary is what tends to become real.”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly what I came here to say.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

I love the word christofascist. I‘ll try to use it more from now on.

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