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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's a motherboard with a soldered CPU and soldered non upgradable ram. That's not refreshingly open.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

"The reason for this design choice is that Framework went with AMD's Ryzen AI Max processors, which feature an integrated Radeon 8060S GPU and need to have the LPDDR5x memory closely coupled to enable the 256 GBps memory bandwidth for high performance."

Its not an anti-repair feature. It is a performance requirement.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

But that still leads to it being anti-repair. Whatever the requirements are, it is made in a way that is counter productive to being open.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Lpcamm2 does 256 Gbs and are upgradable. There are already motherboards that support it.

https://www.ifixit.com/News/95078/lpcamm2-memory-is-finally-here

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

From the OP:

"[AMD] ran simulations, they ran studies, and they just determined it’s not possible with Strix Halo to do LPCAMM. The signal integrity doesn’t work out because of how that memory’s fanning out over the 256-bit bus.”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"The guide confirms that the new Ryzen AI Max "Strix Halo" processors come in hardwired to LPCAMM2 memory configurations of 32 GB, 64 GB, and 128 GB, "

https://www.techpowerup.com/news-tags/Strix%20Halo

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

From your quote:

"hardwired"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Lpcamm2 is by defniition not hardwired. This sentence reads, "Strix comes in hardwired to non hardwired memory configurations."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Hmm. You are correct. I concede my point regarding upgradeable memory being an impossiblity for STRIX Halo.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

It's still anti-repair.
The decision may not have been made with anti-repair in mind but the architecture is inherently anti-repair and so, imo, it doesnt matter.