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There might be some changes that could improve it further:

  • ~~Remove Brave~~
  • ~~Maybe add Signal; It's easier than Element, but it's also centralized~~
  • Stop suggesting Linux Mint specifically
  • Recommend Hosted Nextcloud
  • ~~Add GrapheneOS~~
  • Maybe add Delta chat
  • ~~Maybe remove Bluesky~~
  • ~~Remove Stremio and add Jellfyin (even though it's selfhosted and not a direct equivalent)~~
  • ~~Add ente because Immich is selfhosted~~
  • ~~Add aurora~~
  • ~~Add SearxNG~~
  • Add SimpleX
  • Add lichess
  • Add pCloud

Any other suggestions?

Temporary improved version:

From To Compromise
X, Threads Mastodon Bluesky
Instagram Pixelfed
YouTube PeerTube ReVanced (just blocks adds)
Reddit Lemmy
Netlix, Disney+ ๐Ÿ”จ Jellyfin
Google Meet, Zoom Jitsi Meet
Google Docs Etherpad
Google Search ๐Ÿ”จ SearxNG Kagi, Ecosia
Google Drive Nextcloud pCloud, filen, Proton Drive
Google Photos, iCloud Immich Ente
Google Chrome Librewolf, Firefox Ungoogled-chromium
All messaging apps Element (matrix) Signal
Google Home, Amazon Alexa Home Assistant
Play Store F-droid, Aurora
Google Android, iOS LineageOS, GrapheneOS
Windows, MacOS Linux Mint

๐Ÿ”จ = Self-Hosted only (requires running a server)

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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Element is owned by a company and likes to collect a shit load of data... i'll never understand people that vouch for matrix

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I want to see Koofr up there among the clouds.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

This is the alternatives that I use:

X - Mastodon | YouTube - PC Youtube with uBlock Origin, android ReVanced | Netlix, Disney+ - Stremio (With VPN!) | Google Search - Qwant ~~Startpage~~ | Google Drive - Proton Drive | Google Chrome - Mullvad, Librewolf and Brave (with crypto stuf disabled) | Messaging apps - Session (<3) | Google Android - LineageOS | Windows, MacOS - Linux Mint or Fedora with KDE | Microsoft Office - LibreOffice | VPN - Mullvad (or proton vpn) | Google Maps - Wego.here.com or en.mapy.cz | Google Maps Navigation (Waze) - Sygic or TomTom AmiGO | Google Translate - DeepL | Google Gmail - Tutanota or Proton Mail | Google Authenticator - Ente Auth or Aegis | Password Manager - Bitwarden or KeePass | ChatGPT - Mistral Le Chat |

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Startpage

thanks, i love startpage!

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I actually changed it, in Reddit Buy European they mention that Startpage was sold in 2019 to US company. So I changed it to Qwant (French) it also respects privacy and it's based in Europe.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

damn, but thanks for letting me know

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Google Search - Syartpage

Do you mean startpage?

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I'm using if for 6 months and I don't miss google search. And the option to open search results in "Visit in Anonymous View" is something that I love.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yes typing mistake, I fixt it.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

So that includes Firefox- their privacy rules have recently changed. We need a Europe based Europe made ideally non profit so canโ€™t be sold to US browser and search engine. Chromium based or Firefox forks donโ€™t count because they can claim some ownership or take data. We want full quarantine separation, itโ€™s like a disease

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Signal and US based non profits are not ok. their gov can still access data and chatgpt used to be non profit now majorly owned by Microsoft and privately. Just find full European alternatives

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Signal is E2EE how could they access the data?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Terms and conditions (even the whole structure - chatgpt is case example of non profit to private) can change the best way is to focus fully European. Also follow what the founders made before and if they sold prev companies to us based indivs. If European non profit etc even better

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Mojeek for search

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Where Google maps?

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

fuck brave

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It doesn't show in this list, but I recently found Odysee. Can it be also an alternative to YouTube?

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Last time I checked it was owned by a crypto company and was filled with conspiracy theorists, I don't think that's a great place to direct people to.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Damn, crypto scam seeded that platform? Let me remove it from my bookmark. Thanks man.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

if you know its a faulty picture, why didnt you edit it?

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Brave ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿคฎ

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Self hosted software shouldnt be on the list. Self hosted software is its own glorious list which can be used by the technically inclined. The average user is not going to run a server at home, nor should they without knowing what they are doing.

And why is revanced here? Thats just youtube with removed ads. Thats not moving away from youtube, its youtube with extra steps. Its going to hurt but we will have to move away from youtube, not just squint and pretend we did.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

pCloud and pCloud pass to replace Dropbox and 1Password respectivelyโ€ฆ They also offer a lifetime paymeny option, less subscriptions!

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would add SimpleX, Session, Threema, and Signal. Telegram sucks, and while I love the stickers, it sucks. As the other person said, Stremio is torrenting, which puts your IP address on as billboard. Donโ€™t do it without a VPN or running it through Tor or I2P. I would add every Proton/Tuta product as an alternative to one of the 3000 Google products, like Gmail and Drive. However, I will ALWAYS recommend privacyguides.org ;3

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can you cram the reason Telegram sucks into a few sentences?

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
  • No encryption by default (you have to start a secret chat to have end-to-end encrypted communication).
  • No encryption for group chats and there is no option for secret group chats.
  • They store all your chat history on their server and have the keys to decrypt it at any time.
  • They have a pretty shitty support, if you need to report a bug or something, you can't easily do that.
  • They have a broken testing process for new features, may be pushed to streamline without making sure those work properly. I don't use it as my main communication app but even with rare occasions - the app crashes way too often.
[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ah okay. I mainly use it for file transfer between my devices. Is there a better way i could be doing that that you know of?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

LocalSend is a good tool for sharing files between devices. It is more of a AirDrop alternative.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Session has a note to self feature afaik

Edit: also SessionX has one too

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Seriously add Signal, seconding your bullet point. It hits a great sweet spot of privacy and convenience for convincing people who are hesitant about new apps.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Us non profits are not safe. Case example chatgpt used to be a non profit now owned by Microsoft majorly, selling out whereโ€™s the soul integrity none. Focus on fully European and ofc look into background of founders (did they sell out prev companies claiming principles before and to who?) and principles and track t&c changes, boards (their histories too)

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Remember very rich indivs have โ€œfoundationsโ€ and โ€œnon profitsโ€ to do shady stuff while pretending to care - how else would they get started

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My problem with Jellyfin is that I'd need something like Google Chromecast for it. AFAIK all those dongles are American. Raspberry pi doesn't cut it unfortunately.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

That's one problem I have come across. Roku, Apple, Google, Amazon. They make great streaming devices but they'll all track you. The best answer I have is a PC attached to your TV.

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