HP printers are about to swarm the recycling centers…
this post was submitted on 03 Mar 2024
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the amount of engineering and programming hours spent to make their products worse is just a symptom of how stupid, wasteful decisions are made when there is not enough competition in these industries.
The subscription, like HP’s recent ad campaign promoting its printers as “made to be less hated,”
Literally "cause a problem, sell them the solution" 🤣
I bought a Canon laser printer 10 years ago. The only thing I've needed since then was a single new set of toner. (And a bunch of paper, obviously.)
Even back then it was pretty obvious that ink jets are waste of money and everyone that I knew who had ink jets were just constantly complaining about them.
HP is in the extortion business now....
Which printer you get depends on the plan you choose. They start at $6.99 per month for 20 pages’ worth of prints and whatever the current HP Envy model is, and go all the way up to a $35.99-a-month affair that gets you an OfficeJet Pro and 700 pages. If you go over your page allotment, HP will add more for a dollar per block of 10–15 pages.
This is 100% a trap for elderly people who reflexively print everything they see on the computer.
I guess hp won't care but, while I have bought hp computers for years, this last time I went looking at other brands because of this printer nonsense.
I am sorry some sort of dark curse forced you to only buy hp computers for years, that sounds rough
As you should. The obviously don't have any loyalty to their customers, don't give them any back.
When HP requires HP Smart account to print, the brand was already dead to me
Also any recommendation for printers?
EDIT: damn, I think I am going to get a Brother Laser Printer in the future
Brother are good but I got a Kyocera about 6yrs ago and have never had to change the toner. I've been through about 2 blocks of paper in that time. Prints great.
Plug & Play on Windows and Linux
God forbid I recommended you to buy an HP ever, but it feels like they've been awful only in the ink jet section. At least my HP laser printer (283 something) doesn't require me to have a(n) HP Smart account (I don't even know how/where to set up one), I've had it for ~3-4 years now, and it's been reliable and trusty ever since. I can imagine they started pulling the same shady shit with the new laser printers, but this one seems to be working as of now. Fingers crossed.
EDIT: Still buy a Brother, I have only heard amazing things about them; just saying it's not happening everywhere - yet.
Never had a problem with Brother printers
I mean, they're printers. So...
But yes, Brother is definitely one of the better options on the market.
Everyone loves Brother for good reason.
I've had a decent experience with my Xerox too.
I love my Canons, especially the canon laser printer
If you don't need color printing, I've had a fantastic experience with my Brother monochrome laser printer, fwiw. So much cheaper than ink.
Brother (Dc4020 model if I remember correctly). I have been using it for 10 years using off brand color toner and very well so far.
I have a colour laser printer from Brother and have also had a great experience with it, been going strong for 5 years now
FWIW we have dumb business owners to thank for that.
They've been doing this with the Indigo's for 8+ years that I'm aware of, so probably much longer. And ofc businesses fell for it because just like most cloud shit, nobody can be bothered to calculate actual costs, just fudge stuff and get your bonus/pay rise for pretending to have done something beneficial.
I appreciate the context you added but I think it is important to underline that ultimately we still have hp to thank for this. They didn’t have to be an awful company.
Oh, I'm not denying that they are greedy assholes. But at the same time I feel like we're in that comic, they saw an terrible opportunity, implemented this shit and were like "no way anyone is going to fall for that", and "we" allowed them to like "we" seem to do with many other terrible things in this world, and here we are with them laughing away at "our" stupidity.
There seem to be just enough dumb people around to enable assholes like this to exist, which I find sad and disturbing. It's almost like there is a reason certain groups want people to stay dumb and ban books, ban those who are different from learning etc
Couple of other things about the print stuff; I seriously doubt this even needs to profitable for them in the short term (it likely is), so unless it's dead on arrival, the longer it keeps going, the more chances this will be the only available solution....perhaps a last ditch effort to milk us dry before printing dies?
And for anyone who comes across this in the future, at best you're paying 10x per page compared to what medium size business did many years ago, and no you're not even getting a real service.
There seem to be just enough dumb people around to enable assholes like this to exist
sigh yup! Always was, always will be, it is maddening isn't it.
We can do this even with all the idiots though, they will fall in line behind good ideas for the same stupid reasons they will fall behind bad ideas.
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