How'd that go then.
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I doubt we will know for sure for a few days but I don't see anything so far to indicate it had a big effect. Still this is just a start. No one thinks any single thing will be silver bullet.
So what I dont understand is, even if one were to do a week long blackout of buying anything, we would still need to get milk and eggs and crap. So is the idea to switch from amazon to other stores or not spend altogether? Because not spending altogether is a pretty stupid and unrealistic goal.
My main complaint is that anything not bought on the day of the blackout will just be bought the following day.
Better protest is to act as if there is a recession. Buy only what you need, and if possible seek an alternative from a smaller manufacturer. As aways don't let perfect be the enemy of good.
European here. So how did this go yesterday? News coverage?
Buy Nothing Day has existed since the 1990s — I believe that Kalle Lassen popularized it in his ADBUSTERS monthly.
Coverage in AP and NPR is amazing progress.
When you find out most of the people live paycheck to paycheck and can't afford to buy in bulk, or don't even have a place to store it because they live in an apartment, is when you realize that only a certain privileged subset of them is able to participate in this type of passive protests...
I mean, I've been very poor. Not buying is the easy part when you're poor - buying stuff is the hard part, so not sure what your point is on this one.
Buying in bulk was the point. When you can stockpile on idk, meat, toilet paper, water... Etc. For a whole month.
Who was saying the blackout was for a month?????
And if in extreme poverty, you don't eat much meat, it's mostly eggs (years ago when they were cheap). Fresh meat was always an "it's on sale because it's expiring today" event that you'd buy as much as you can and then piece out to freeze for later while eating a bit that same day. Most of the time it was cheap canned meats you'd have coupons for ideally of you wanted meat, and you wouldn't eat the whole can at once.
Water??? Really?
I mean, maybe you had a good intention, but you clearly have no idea what poverty is like. When you're that poor you don't buy water, you get what's on tap - even if it smells strongly of bleach.
I'm not gonna read all that homie, when you clearly are out of your mind.
If you have money you can stockpile for the duration of an embargo. If you don't you have to cave. That is the point.
It was 1 day tho?...
And bulk foods are significantly cheaper than non-bulk. So ate preserved foods / long lasting over fresh. I'd get bulk beans, canned spinach, canned mandarins, spam, bulk noodles, sack of potatoes, etc, so the argument doesn't make sense there either. If I did get something fresh, usually it was fresh meat on sale that I could immediately cook or freeze if I could afford to buy extra for later.
Bulk is cheaper per unit. But if you can't buy the unit... Please slow down and realize a day might be a bridge too far.
I literally sometimes was going a day without food, or on 400 calories or less. I'd lay with a pillow or a hard object under my stomach to calm the hunger pain. I'd drink a lot of water at once to feel full. I'd walk miles on my free days (when I had the energy) to the local forest to forage (mostly got nopales to make with eggs).
Bulk is cheaper overall. If you can't buy the bulk unit, you can't buy, well, anything, because paychecks aren't daily (other than when working for tips, but you can save for specific bulk items then, and being a waiter can have food perks), and bulk items will last you longer than a day. Rice and beans last longer than a day, and a large bag of both of extremely cheap and can last you 5 days easily if you eat once a day.
You're literally telling someone who was in extreme poverty how to survive extreme poverty.
I'm glad you're no longer in extreme poverty.
I suppose the lifestyle and definition of poor is different in the US because, simultaneously, 60% of Americans live at or below the level of poverty and is one of the most overweight nations globally.
My assumption is that over several decades, ultra capitalism has forced everyone in the nation to consume on a daily basis. So, not purchasing something in one day is near impossible because of the way their society is set up.
So I mean my wife and I shop pretty much daily for the quality of life of fresh ingredients. she also has a hard time with carbs so what we buy is more for me.
I know, I'm just saying when poor you specifically don't shop daily, because that also means more trips to the store, which is more trips to the store, which is more time and fuel. It's easier to weather a boycott if poor than privileged as the original content I replied to mentioned.
This in the USA though.
I'm Finland, near daily trips can be cheaper, if shopping for sales, because you can usually walk to a market. But frozen vegetables are still usually cheapest for vegetable options. Canned items here are expensive. Bulk is still cheaper here too.
The AP ran an article on it
No impact. Every where I went was busy as fuck all day yesterday.
Eh. By what I've read this was more 'practice' for a week long blackout. People don't seem to understand though that those goods are needed period and all it will do is create a weird spike in supply/demand before and after the week/day. General focused boycotting on non-essentials is impactful, but one day? You're just going to go out and buy the day before or after. That doesn't even create a blip for suppliers.
I wonder what percentage of the population could do a week long blackout.
Well, how'd everyone do? I had to order some magic cards so I stayed up until midnight to do it lol. I also need to replace a pvc pipe under my kitchen sink so that waited until today and I've been getting water from the bathroom...
It was easy for us as we have cut out a lot of consumerism to begin with so we are not the best household for it. Would be interesting to hear if folks who are the type getting deliveries every day stopped for yesterday.
I "broke" about 8pm ET to donate to Ukraine. I know we were boycotting Visa/Mastercard too, but after yesterday's shitshow I felt like solidarity was worth more than my boycott.
Otherwise, it was fine. I've already been heavily limiting my spending since the inauguration anyway, after admittedly overspending at the end of the Biden term to prep for impending tariffs.
I heard buying local is fine so we got some sandwiches from a local restaurant, but other than that, we just stayed in. So success on our parts I think!
I see no problem with that. The taco bus down the street isn't a part of the oligarchy, ya know
I didn't know about it. Tried to pull into Kroger after work and couldn't find a parking spot. I'm going to say it is likely even the stores didn't know about it. Ended up saying forget it, skipped dinner and picked up something from the mom and pop liquor store instead. That about sums up America for me right now
I don't get this plan.
Even if people don't shop one day, they will buy postponed items next day.
You are organizing the wrong thing, you need to build a platform and a troll farm.
As someone said in a different thread, it’s a first step in gauging support for a broader effort. It gives a sense of how effective getting the message out is, and how many people join on.
I think it's been counter productive in that regard.
Anyone who put any effort in on the 28th will feel disheartened because nothing was achieved.
Well, seeing as I only found about this yesterday night, I'd say getting the message out hasn't been very effective...
There is no way for anyone to gauge this. Retailers won't release this data
That misses the point. Directional support is all that’s needed here as a start.