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[–] [email protected] 44 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

From a lemmygrad post on fascism


The western left’s use of the term fascism, is borderline white-supremacist at this point. Fascism was a form of colonialism that died by the 1940s, and is only allowed to be demonized in public discourse, because it was a form of colonialism directed also against white europeans. It was defeated, and Germany / Italy / Japan reverted to the more stable form of government for colonialism (practiced by the US, UK, France, the Netherlands, Australia, etc): bourgeois parliamentarism.

British, european, and now US colonizers were doing the exact same thing, and killing far more people for hundreds of years in the global south, yet you don’t hear ppl scared of their countries potentially "adopting parliamentary democracy”. They haven't changed, and their wealth is still propped up by surplus value theft from the super-exploitation of hundreds of millions of low-paid global south proletarians.

This is why you have new leftists terrified that the UK or US or europe “might turn fascist!!”, betraying that the atrocities propagated by those empires against the global south was and is completely acceptable.

Make no mistake about it: parliamentary / bourgeois democracy is not only a more stable form of government, it's also far more effective at carrying out colonialism, and killing millions of innocent people.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

This is why you have new leftists terrified that the UK or US or europe “might turn fascist!!”, betraying that the atrocities propagated by those empires against the global south was and is completely acceptable.

While the criticism is on point, I think you're underselling the legitimate dire fear modern leftists have when they see the brutality of the periphery returning home. We have to recognize that - individually - we're incredibly weak in the face of a mobilized police state. And we have every reason to be horrified of The Jakarta Method being visited on LA or Atlanta or Houston, particularly if we're members of that domestic political underclass so often targeted for abuse.

Any opposition must be a unified and organized resistance. But we are also plagued by mass surveillance, structural alienation, and a profound sense of vulnerability cultivated over decades of "War On" maximalist state propaganda. So we're feeling weak, we don't know who we can trust, and we see this horrifying inevitability cresting over our heads like a tsunami.

This isn't a betrayal of comrades abroad but a reflection of our own dismal moral, disunity, and despair. It represents one more hurdle for a modern western left to overcome and should be received as such, rather than used as a bludgeon to degrade left-wing moral even further.

Far better to be awake and aware and justifiably afraid of the threat of fascism than blind to it as the unaligned, compromised by it as the liberals, or enthusiastically participatory as the conservatives.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The White House’s new exertion of control over the media finally gets us a perfect 14/14 score according to Britt’s Characteristics of Fascism. Granted, it’s not pass/fail. Things can still get far worse.

https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html

[–] [email protected] 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Huh......so we passed on all 14......which is a fail.......at least from my perspective. Maga perspective may differ.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 23 hours ago

Yes, perfectly modeling fascism is a failure. I didn’t want to suggest that we hit bottom just because we checked some boxes. There’s still plenty of room for things to get worse if we don’t do anything to stop it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think the point you're making is true, but the titular argument could still be useful rhetoric to the misguided patriot.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 23 hours ago

No, this is Patrick

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