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Send only info about your device, its settings and capabilities, and whether it is performing properly.

In other words, even after turning off all the settings, your data still gets collected.

The rest of the installation process wasn't fun either. It was worded in this weird, condescending tone, like "Let's get everything set up for you", and "Let Cortana help you get things done!".

Thank goodness for FLOSS and GNU/Linux.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (3 children)

You can use Win10Privacy to bodily castrate nearly all built-in spyware and telemetry.

Downside is that it’s a damn powerful program, with few guardrails, so if you don’t have good knowledge of Windows internals you run a non-trivial risk of accidentally lobotomizing an important feature of your install by enabling the wrong setting. I mean, all settings can be easily reversed, but you gotta know which specific one did the nerfing in order to undo the oopsie.

For example, even the midrange firewall settings are mostly safe, except… a single one of them completely kills Microsoft Office Click-To-Run. It won’t install, and it won’t launch even if you installed it before you applied Win10Privacy. So if Microsoft Office is an essential (Access or Excel absolutely needed, for example), be careful.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Absolutely disgusting! Literally the only reason why I still use Windows is the fact many games I play have anti-cheat spyware that doesn't work on Linux.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

For me it’s this and very specific audio production stuff. Linux audio production has come leaps and bounds over the years, but I need specific vst plugins that I don’t think I could get running in Linux. Also because what I’m doing has very quick turnaround times, I’m worried that if I did get that stuff working it could basically break at any time and I’d be boned.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I am in a very similar situation with audio production. I have a lot of plugins and tried to see what I could get working with yabridge on my Linux laptop in my free time. Some stuff worked flawlessly, while a lot of other important plugins did not work at all. I hope that some day more stuff works and the tool gets more streamlined for less technical users, but for now it is not quite where it needs to be for my use case. In the mean time I switched to a DAW that has a Linux version (Bitwig) and I am slowly working towards switching to only using plugins that have a Linux version. I am far from a point where I can comfortably switch though, so for now Windows is an occupational hazard.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's like a mini game to get the choices right

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Can not recommend. The levels were very difficult but short and the final reward was shit

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh and that seems to be ltsc or an older win 10 build too! If you want the creeps get a normal win 11 home iso and try it out with a burner account... You might be surprised what they got in charge for you. (A lot of ads and tracking with up selling, tho I don't know how much Home edition costs, pro costs like 130€ or so and has the same crap built in but the ability to make an offline account(they still ask you to "upgrade" to online))

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No the offline account trick still works.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

You have to use CLI to get around it, I don’t consider that functional for the average user

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Or you just use Rufus to create your USB installer. It provides the ability to add that option to the installer just before the burning process. Mouse clicks only, no CLI needed.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Chris Titus debloat script is the only thing that makes Windows even remotely usable these days.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Thata true, but you if used in a vm you should be careful as preset selections could end up removing functions on your guest vm.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

All of this exists on Macs too, doesn't it?

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I love the "Let's finish setting up your device" popup that prevents me from using my VMs regularly.

The "Let's finish settings up your device" popup of Windows 10, acting as if you forgot to let Microsoft scan your face, tell them about your phone, buy an office subscription, store your data on Microsoft servers and start using Microsoft's browser.

Like some condescending peddler trying to slam-dunk your agreement as a foregone conclusion.

Come on, buddy, let's do those remaining tasks, let's have Microsoft scan your face, tell Microsoft about your phone, let's go and install those Microsoft apps missing from your phone, and your laptop, too, and then we go buy that Office subscription and have you store your important files on Microsoft's servers and we really need to get around to switching to Microsoft's web browser now.

And the only option you get is "Yes" or "Remind me later."

If you turn it off (and it needs to be turned off in two places), it'll be back on as soon as Microsoft publishes the tiniest update to any of its unwanted services. Harrghrrr! (artery popping noises)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Turn off "Offer Tips and Tricks to finish setting up this device" ( At least for me that was permanent. Otherwise you might use something like O&O shut up 10, also the setting is per user )

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Yes, I do that on all my VMs about every 3-5 weeks when it turns itself on again.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 8 months ago

If linux had all these settings on installation everyone would be saying that it's to hard for normies to install

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I still don't get why people keep defending it. Win+e doesn't even open to a panel that lets me open the c drive without clicking other shit and waiting for it to appear first. An update also just put the search bar back on the task bar when I explicitly disabled it as soon as I got through the bad default options for days during the install. It also added copilot. Auto update is also supposed to be disabled.

While I'm at it fuck every dev that uses libraries/framework/etc that is known to not work in wine. There are thousands of better ways to be a shitty dev.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Win+e doesn't even open to a panel that lets me open the c drive without clicking other shit and waiting for it to appear first.

I have been seriously considering creating a “graphical registry editor” that would be feature-focused and could be both portable (for one-off application) and installable (for constant on-login resetting of any changed preferences). Just open it up, browse the offerings, select the feature mods you want, apply and restart.

There is a lot of File Explorer shit that you can do to mod it back to WinXP days. Had to do this to a Win11 install for my Octogenarian father who has become very intolerant of unexpected changes, and while it needs regular maintenance to “keep”, it has worked out well for him.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The only reason I don't completely despise Windows is because it, along with Mac OS, has made computing available for the masses. The average person doesn't have the time to learn how to use a computer. They just want to use it. That in my subjective opinion is a good thing. A very strong, and valid argument could be made that it's a faustian bargain, probably because it is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. I've been wanting to adopt Linux as a daily driver, but unfortunately there are programs that simply aren't made for anything other than Windows/Mac. I seriously do hope programmers start investing more in software for Linux so that I can make the switch permanently.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

See if the software is compatible with Wine, a compatiblity layer for Windows software to run on Linux.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I still don’t get why people keep defending it.

With microsoft being the most valuated company in the world rest assured that many of the people defending their products are getting paid to do it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

PR team hard at work.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I remember installing Windows XP. sigh.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I was lucky if everything worked. Usually it had troubles with peripherals, network, or even the USB drive it was on. But none (?) of this crap.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I had one of the 23 machines in the world that ran Windows ME flawlessly. :(

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Hey now, mine ran it flawlessly after three days of tinkering and then rebooting twice a day afterwards.

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