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According to the Telegraph, a leaked confidential Trump peace plan delivered to President Zelenskyy has caused panic in Kyiv.

The proposal would grant the U.S. half of revenues from Ukraine’s resource extraction and licensing, effectively amounting to economic colonization.

The Telegraph noted, "Trump’s demands would amount to a higher share of Ukrainian GDP than reparations imposed on Germany at the Versailles Treaty, later whittled down at the London Conference in 1921, and by the Dawes Plan in 1924."

Simultaneously, the plan would absolve Russia for its invasion that has caused hundreds of thousands of deaths.

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[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 51 points 3 months ago (14 children)

Have we forgotten that Trump has no power in Ukraine. All this means is that Europe has to provide a bit more funding.

Honestly, not even that much.

Keep fighting Russia without the US. Tell Trump to pound sand.

[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 18 points 3 months ago

Until recently the US supplied a lot of weapons to Ukraine. That did give US official opinion a lot of weight.

Since Trump and his Republican followers have stopped all aid to Ukraine this influence has evaporated. Why would you care about the opinion of someone who has literally just left you to die?

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[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago

So many assasinations in world history, they really arent that rare of a thing.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Who had Trump and Putie collude to Own Ukraine on their Fascist Dictator Bingo cards?

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[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Credit to Putin, it's a good play. The only counter is for Europe to unite against both Russia and the current US government.

Theoretically possible, but unlikely unless the non-EU states also fall in line early.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 27 points 3 months ago

What we have to realize is that, if this were WWII, the one playing Germany is now the US.

The lesson from WWII was that you do not appease the aggressor. Europe has to oppose the US. It does not matter how difficult that seems. They have to.

If not, Trump is not stopping at Ukraine. He will make demands of all of Europe while tariffing and cutting his own European defence spending the entire time.

The time to stand-up to Trump is now.

Back Ukraine. Stand up to the US. Russia is contained as long as we find Ukraine. The USA is not.

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