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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago (45 children)

Better than not voting and doing nothing.

The best would be voting and being an activist.

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[+] [email protected] -20 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Just try to tell them the parties are the same. I've been pilloried three times, they cut my balls off, and I'm set to be hung tomorrow at dusk.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

They aren't the same. But they don't need to be the same for them to both suck and not deserve to be in power. But harm reduction is real.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The issue isn't that the parties are the same. It is that neither should be in power. And you're all too fucking brainwashed to realize the only way out of this mess without violent revolution is a third party gaining power. And even with, probably.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're ignorant or lazy if you cannot see the difference- even if it is a nuance . . .they are different. For easy reference just check the Internet for voting disparity between the parties. Give me your top 5 most important values and then see which party aligns with them. Most likely you will not be able to say - they are both the same when voting for or against the 5 values I hold in highest regard.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

My most important values are:

no genocide, like under a whole Dem can we do that first?
basic income for everyone regardless of status
universal healthcare for anyone who ever should need it
the legal system shouldnt discriminate based on who a person is
you can fite me to to death on this, Trump is a shit piece and if i lived in Idaho I would have voted Harris but ya know what "oops" with regard to the electoral college I guess you are on the same team as me in Cali.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Saying a simplistic, basic-ass statement such like "both parties are the same" is just annoying and not correct

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Ok, but no one here said that. Thats a strawman liberals put up to avoid a few topics.

Those topics you'd rather not talk about:

Is all of gaza destroyed right now or not? Were tens of thousands of innocent civilians massacred there with our help on Bidens watch?

If you admit the above then he's a war criminal isnt he.

Bidens response to the defund and reallocate movement for justice was to ignore the plees and increase police funding, correct?

Did abortion go down on Bidens watch? Did his previous work as head of the senate judiciary committee contribute to that?

Didnt Biden carry through with his promise to the rich donors that "nothing would fundamentally change"?

Biden and Harris were not for gun control were they. Are guns just not a problem anymore in our schools? School shootings stopped?

Did the Dems talk about the issues important to the poor and middle class? They sure needed their votes.

Did Biden have the polling numbers to win at any time in the 2 years leading up to the election? And did Harris do anything to differentiate herself from what was clearly a candidate who was about to lose in a big way?

Did Biden/Harris even bother to craft and talk about a Dem party platform? All we heard was "I'm not trump".

Do you think if Harris had differentiated herself from Biden, talked about the poor and working class's struggles and afirmed that the gaza war had to change, she would have still lost? I dont think so. But she chose not to do those things right.

And now Biden/Harris lost but its everyone elses "fault"? come on man. Stop lying to yourself and holding a pointless grudge and leveling these "both sides are the same" playground name calling distractions from these truths. Biden and Harris made the choices that led to the loss. They are not victim here, they are the perpetrators. We all got effed by their incomptence and hubris. Every demographic of voter was angry at Biden/Harris. Do you deny that?

You shouldnt be blaming the desperate voters who have been ignored and abused by their party, while excluding Biden/Harris from any blame. Some of you lot keep saying he's one of the best presidents ever-- when all of the above topics argue pretty strongly otherwise, if you;d just acknowledge that the topics even exist.

But you wont. You wont reply, you'll downvote, and thats the end of it for you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ok, but no one here said that.

They literally did though, in those exact words.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It’s all of you.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Not me. I want the zealots all beheaded. Yea, what they're doing is illegal and I also* voted. But now it's chop chop time. I should start a website to get 15% of the population to agree with me on a specific day. Kind of like The General Strike. But with more axe.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

OK. But what are you actually doing right now? What are any of us doing right now?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm talking to like minded people overseas about preparing resources to help at-risk people evacuate the United States. I'm also accumulating an emergency fund and arming myself. I will continue to masquerade as a cis white dude so I can move mostly unimpeded. I plan to help people get to New England as a staging point--it will remain RELATIVELY less dangerous than most other parts of the country here--where they might have a chance of SURVIVING LONG ENOUGH to cobble their shit together enough that they can legally get overseas from here without violating a visa and getting deported back to this shithole.

I will also continue attempting to practice the art of not tipping off the enemy by giving them any warning that I might be a threat to them. I must swaddle myself in the flayed skin of civility. I must smile politely and patiently to their faces. I must lull them into feeling safe around me. I must wait until their back is turned. And then I can personally drag them to hell by the neck. Hopefully when nobody else will witness it.

There needs to be fewer fascists in America. One way or another. I'd rather see them convinced rationally to peacefully change their minds and stop being fascists. If they remove that option, well, they get lie in the beds they've shat.