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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Dem's aren't even putting in the minimum effort into pretending to be an opposition party.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

I'm starting to see people rile up, fortunately, but it's not enough. I'm going down to my states senate office with a megaphone and gonna stir some shit up. You should too. People are like lemmings, they won't act until you do.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The current moment is like the recent wildfires. All this trash built up over the years and it sort of has to have its time to burn out. Everything just has to find a way to survive it until it runs out of fuel. When the pendulum swings back the other direction, just be ready to rebuild from the natural disaster.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The current moment is like the recent wildfires. All this trash built up over the years and it sort of has to have its time to burn out. Everything just has to find a way to survive it until it runs out of fuel. When the pendulum swings back the other direction, just be ready to rebuild from the natural disaster.

-Author unknown, February 1933

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Suggestions?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I dunno, do something. Anything really. You have a handful of the richest people on earth trying to turn your country into a tech monarchy that wants to have the ability to put its people in vr prisons or kill then outright if it becomes uneconomic to keep them alive. Your entire people should be in a fight or flight response. Literally attacking the government and trying to kill the billionaires. It's that bad of a situation for you. This is the worst possible timeline. In 10 years I don't think the us will be a democracy. I think it will be a dictatorship kept in power by some type of artificial intelligence run surveillance system. The average man will have less and less economic importance to the oligarchy meaning less and less power to stand up to them until eventually you have to value to them at all at which time they start killing you. This is a nightmare timeline you are in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So… yeah… not exactly helpful today.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

You gotta know this stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Read and learn from successful revolutions, and the Marxist tradition in general, which correctly identifies both the root problem, and has a wealth of historical experiences for how to defeat it, the correct and incorrect roads taken, and what worked/didn't. Join working-class parties, and organize for our own interests, so that sociopaths who would be happy sacrificing all of us for the sake of profits, don't control society.

@[email protected] keeps an excellent study guide here, and I have one here.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Thank you, Dessalines. I of course remember your welcome when I first showed up in some instance in Lemmy. I admire the work and the structure of this alternative to social media and I quickly became aware that much of its success is due to your efforts. I have presumed they are all volunteer?

I am grateful for the two reading lists.

I have started one of the audio books already — one I’ve been telling myself I’d read forever.

But I’ll ask — considering how brutal and distorted much of what has been associated with this work became, how do people remain idealistic and hopeful about it?

If you take a gander at my last few posts, you’ll discover I’ve just been sharing a 3 second image of a swastika being blown upanywhere I can manage it. We all know where Trump is headed… same exact thing that happened to Hitler. I say we get to the end of this the sooner the better. I don’t know how to stay positive.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm not Dessalines, but as the curator of the other list, I can do my best to answer.

When you say that Marxism has become "brutal and distorted," I think you're operating from a mindset and understanding rooted in Western culture and education. I would say, based on my research and reading into AES (Actually Existing Socialism), these countries such as Cuba, the PRC, and the former USSR all apply Marxist understanding and methods to amazing effect.

The Red Scare never ended, and being aware that it existed isn't enough to actually understand what AES is like. The history of AES, and the conditions within those countries, is not reported faithfully or honestly in the West, so it is very difficult. That doesn't mean they are perfect, but it means they are real, and come with real victories for the Working Class.

That's why the opening sections of my reading list include Blackshirts and Reds as well as Dr. Michael Parenti's 1986 lecture, these 2 really give an eye-opening look into the mythology and demonization of AES in the west, and how that process is intentional and persists to this day.

To circle back to your question, Marxists are hopeful because Marxism works, we know this and see it happening. We learn from the mistakes our predecessors made and we promise to carry their work forward.

As a final side-note, regarding the Nazis: it was the Red Army that did 80% of the fighting against the Nazis. We have Marxists to thank for the defeat of the Nazis, and we can do it again.