I mean, Russia is winning. What are people here expecting?
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Liberals still seem to think the war can be ended if the US asks Russia politely to retreat and gain nothing.
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Security guarantees? Europe's picking up the tab while Washington cashes out. Hegseth's "pragmatic evaluation" means funneling Europe's GDP into Lockheed Martin's quarterly reports. NATO's 5% defense spending target? A $2.3 trillion shakedown disguised as collective security. The Continent's industrial base is now a Pentagon subcontractor.
Crimea's gone. Zelensky's bargaining chips? A lithium deposit map and a graveyard of Leopard tanks. The "non-NATO peacekeeping mission" is just a rebrand for EU cannon fodder patrols. Von der Leyen's already drafting memos about "volunteer brigades" staffed by unemployed Iberian welders.
The real "negotiated settlement": Trump's Mar-a-Lago membership roster now includes Rosneft executives. Europe gets to foot the bill for demining Donbas while Chevron drills the Black Sea.
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This plus Danish intel means a large scale war in Europe is imminent.
Edit: my point is that Russia will escalate things in Europe as Danish intel has indicated. Donno why I'm getting downvoted.
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I mean fuck hegseth he's a fucking Nazi but NATO is also full of Nazis too so fuck it let them fight
We get:
- Nothing
You get:
- Less than nothing
What a fucking great deal!
What a fucking great deal!
Somehow it's always like that when some country get to serve as US proxy.
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With no guarantees of safety from future aggression, why on earth would Ukraine accept such a deal? This whole war started with Russia breaking their previous peace agreement.
Because Ukraine doesn't really have much of a choice in the matter, the entire point of the war was to get to a point where that could be certified. If Ukraine refuses any peace deals, Russia will just continue the war.
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Wouldn't this have had value as a bargaining chip in peace talks? The fact that they're saying this now suggests that they're about to pressure Ukraine into a truly shitty deal.
My guess is that this was Putin's requirement to even discuss terms. Besides, Trump already secured rights to their REM, what more could we even get from Ukraine joining NATO?
Russia will eye Europe, and USA will keep eyeing Canada and Greenland.
Only a matter of time before they fabricate a reason for the public to believe and then they will invade.
And they will believe it. He’s already saying “matter of national security”. Americans have truly abandoned us. Half of them are still just waiting for the eggs while they prepare to invade other countries to play three player RISK before they die and leave the remainder for the climate.
They're only divided by a small strait, why can't we just stop all of the comical geopolitical attention grabs and just watch the US and Russia kiss?
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That's what Daddy Putin wants, so that's what Daddy Putin gets.
This is what America wanted. Biden made no effort to provide Ukraine with the weapons to win.
Deadbeat dad doesn’t even begin to describe the abandonment.