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I know the CEO dug himself a pretty deep hole recently.

I had been meaning to switch all the services I currently use over to proton - but his remarks gave me pause.

Is it still worth considering?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

im pretty sure they turned over ip of a french activist (not 100% sure) and when i was checking them out there tor mirror just linked to the clearnet site wich put me off so based on your threat model they can be ok

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah, I ended up going with mailbox until I can self host my own stuff.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't get why people hate companies based on one person instead of the company as a whole.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Well the company's board has a choice on who represents them and what their values are as a whole.

If the company thought that this person (CEO on this case) doesn't represent their values effectively they can remove them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I have to say I found this article insightful: "Does Proton really support Trump? A deeper analysis (and surprising findings)"

It inclines me to give him the benefit of the doubt. He clearly got stuck trying to make his point and at some point just stopped explaining. My feeling was that that was good decision because he stopped digging a deeper hole.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

got stuck trying to make his point and at some point just stopped explaining.

Oof, super been there before

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

This is a great write up on an absolute storm in a teacup

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Not giving my business to a Trump supporter.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Privacy Guides.org

This is a great site to see recommended products for use like proton and their alternatives.

While Proton does offer a lot of services that are useful, some people dont want to put all their eggs in one basket and use various products together.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes. If you don't agree with the CEO, keep in mind that he is not the owner, they moved to a nonprofit structure. Proton's CEO is not the first one saying stupid things, the same happened with Mozilla, Brave, and perhaps many other reputable groups.

Proton products are good, IMHO the layout is OK.

It's good, but not the only one. If you don't feel comfortable with Proton, go to Mailbox.org, Posteo, Tuta. They are smaller, with less products on their portfolio, but reputable and as good as Proton.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Tuta is a front for a western intelligence agency from what I understand. Came out in an espionage trial in Canada recently. It was in the news.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s worth it for sure. The product suite and convenience is really “the only” option for that price and while many seem to thing that proton is ready to sell out to American big tech, they won’t, simply because you can’t sell a non-profit organisation.

Tuta is decent email, but terrible UI.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

OpenAI is a non-profit too...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Technically, yes.
IF you're worried about the CEO, go for Tuta.

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