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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Anon volunteers for Neuralink

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Brainless GPT coding is becoming a new norm on uni.

Even if I get the code via Chat GPT I try to understand what it does. How you gonna maintain these hundreds of lines if you dont know how does it work?

Not to mention, you won't cheat out your way on recruitment meeting.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Why do they even care? it's not like your future bosses are going to give a flying fuck how you get your code. at least, they won't until you cause the machine uprising or something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 25 minutes ago

They absolutely will. Companies hire programmers because they specifically need people who can code. Why would I hire someone to throw prompts into ChatGPT? I can do that myself. In the time it take me to write to an employee instructing them on the code I want them to create with ChatGPT, I could just throw a prompt into ChatGPT myself.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

They are going to care if you can maintain your code. Programming isn't "write, throw it over the fence and forget about it", you usually have to work with what you - or your coworkers - have already done. "Reading other people's code" is, like, 95% of the programmers job. Sometimes the output of a week long, intensive work is a change in one line of code, which is a result of deep understanding of a project which can span through many files, sometimes many small applications connected with each other.

ChatGPT et al aren't good at that at all. Maybe they will be in the future, but at the moment they are not.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Why would you even be taking the course at this point

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Money can be exchanged for housing, food, healthcare, and more necessities.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, Anon paid an AI to take the class he payed for. Setting his money on fire would have been more efficient.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago

I mean at this point just commit to the fraud and pay someone who actually knows how to code to take your exam for you.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I remember so little from my studies I do tend to wonder if it would really have cheating to… er… cheat. Higher education was like this horrendous ordeal where I had to perform insane memorisation tasks between binge drinking, and all so I could get my foot in the door as a dev and then start learning real skills on the job (e.g. “agile” didn’t even exist yet then, only XP. Build servers and source control were in their infancy. Unit tests the distant dreams of a madman.)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago

virtual machine

[–] [email protected] 76 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

The bullshit is that anon wouldn't be fsked at all.

If anon actually used ChatGPT to generate some code, memorize it, understand it well enough to explain it to a professor, and get a 90%, congratulations, that's called "studying".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

I don't think that's true. That's like saying that watching hours of guitar YouTube is enough to learn to play. You need to practice too, and learn from mistakes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

No he's right. Before ChatGPT there was Stack Overflow. A lot of learning to code is learning to search up solutions on the Internet. The crucial thing is to learn why that solution works though. The idea of memorizing code like a language is impossible. You'll obviously memorize some common stuff but things change really fast in the programming world.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think that's quite accurate.

The "understand it well enough to explain it to a professor" clause is carrying a lot of weight here - if that part is fulfilled, then yeah, you're actually learning something.

Unless of course, all of the professors are awful at their jobs too. Most of mine were pretty good at asking very pointed questions to figure out what you actually know, and could easily unmask a bullshit artist with a short conversation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I didn't say you'd learn nothing, but the second take was not just to explain (when you'd have the code in front of you to look at), but to actually write new code, for a new problem, from scratch.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It's more like if played a song on Guitar Hero enough to be able to pick up a guitar and convince a guitarist that you know the song.

Code from ChatGPT (and other LLMs) doesn't usually work on the first try. You need to go fix and add code just to get it to compile. If you actually want it to do whatever your professor is asking you for, you need to understand the code well enough to edit it.

It's easy to try for yourself. You can go find some simple programming challenges online and see if you can get ChatGPT to solve a bunch of them for you without having to dive in and learn the code.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

I mean I feel like depending on what kind of problems they started off with ChatGPT probably could just solve simple first year programming problems. But yeah as you get to higher level classes it will definitely not fully solve the stuff for you and you'd have to actually go in and fix it.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 22 hours ago

Professors hate this one weird trick called "studying"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, if you memorized the code and it's functionality well enough to explain it in a way that successfully bullshit someone who can sight-read it... You know how that code works. You might need a linter, but you know how that code works and can probably at least fumble your way through a shitty 0.5v of it

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