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I’m planning to install Arch Linux for the first time. Any recommendations on setup, must-have applications, or best practices? Also, what’s something you wish you knew before switching to Arch?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

For starts, read the wiki. Specifically, read the installation guide at least twice to get a feel for how it works and what the Arch vibe is like. This is also your chance to figure out just what you want to do. Do you want to use GRUB or UEFI? Which sounds like a better fit? What filesystem? What do you want to run? mdadm or not? A little bit of planning and reading is better than reinstalling half a dozen times (ask me how I know...)

Must-have applications? Screen or tmux. SSH. Whatever shell you're comfortable with (bash is how I roll, but you might be a fan of fish).

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)
  • EndeavourOS is arch based with less hassle. Its more than good enough for most people. don't get trapped by minimal install bs and other non-consequential opinionative approaches to software.
  • Select btrfs as your file system and use timeshift. If you fuck up or if your updates fuck something up. There are other ways of doing rollbacks and this is just what I became familiar with. I've used it two times in the past year, its worth it.
  • Bookmark the archwiki, 99% of the time the answer to the questions of 'how to' and 'can i' are in there
  • There are multiple DE's. Pick what works best for you before you toss that bootable USB installer. You of course can switch later down the line, but experimenting now will save you config troubleshooting later, just stick to what feels/looks best. Look around on the web to see what appeals to your workflow. There are others like Cosmic and Wayland that are not included in the arch gui installer, in which case, follow the install procedures for the DE you want and remove the old ones to avoid config overlap.
  • Have Fun. If you are not, do something that is.
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Print out the install guide on paper and have it with you while you go. If you fuck up networking, you'll have the directions there to get it back.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The whole arch advantage (imo) is that you have a full understanding of what's in your machine and how it works.

As a beginner you won't understand and that's okay, but you should try different things (or don't and just focus on what works for you) as long as the end result is you doing: pacman -Qe and going "hmm that makes sense", and imo the undesired result is going "hmm what do these all do, why do I have 2000+ packages"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Arch is good for tinkering with to make it your own, but can sometimes require tinkering to do things other distros can do straight away, e.g. adding udev rules to use certain devices or setting up zeroconf to be able to discover printers on the network automatically

If you want to be able to roll back changes easily you could set up your root and home partitions as btrfs subvolumes and use snapper to take snapshots, which can be combined with pacman hooks to automatically take snapshots when updating/installing software and can even be set up to allow booting into the snapshots which could be useful if you break your system

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Install slackware instead! But if you must, yay.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Any reason you would recommend Slackware specifically?

I've watched a few Youtube videos on the history of it and the advantages of it but I don't recall much. It seemed like a lot of people who had used Slackware a long time ago simply continuing to use Slackware and people using at as a learning tool because of how user involved it is.


Would you recommend people start with Slackware itself or a Slackware-based distro?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Do yourself a favour and install it on a virtual machine first. Screwing up an install on Arch is frighteningly easy. The Arch Wiki is your friend, use it. Also, read the installation instructions before you begin the installation, not during. If this sounds like too much of a headache (understandably so), then give EndeavourOS a whirl.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (7 children)

It's all automated now, it's pretty hard to mess up a standard install. It's not like the good old days.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

That's what I thought, but then when arch install fcks up it seems even harder to fix. I ised it because I have been getting new computers so it was easier to run run it. It messed up the SSD in a way, and trying to run it again wouldn't work because it can't find the SSD that it did something to. It took a while to manually fix all that.

Also idk why arch install doesn't have easy way to partition home and root, the default suggestions's root is too small, changing it requires manually making each partition, just take an integer(%) allocated for home and calculate from there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Are you talking about archinstall or have they actually automated the default installation method?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Only update your system if you have some time on your hands afterwards, in case something breaks. Happened to me a few times before.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This.
"Just do a quick update" and spend 1h trying to fix some broken updates

Also look at https://archlinux.org/news/ before updating (or follow the RSS feed), some updates may need manual intervention

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Paying close attention to news feeds is something I wish I did when I ran Manjaro.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

So many tips, let me add mine.

  • btop - for monitoring and process management
  • pacseek - terminal UI for installing, searching packages (uses yay)
  • chaotic aur - repo for prebuilt binaries that are generally ok

When installing use the archinstall the first time, unless you really want to go into the deep end and use the normal install.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)
  • archinstall is one of the better/best distro installs around - it just does what it says it will and is pretty intuitive
  • LUKS encryption is easy to set up in archinstall - strongly recommend encrypting your root partition if you have anything remotely sensitive on your system
  • If you do use encryption but don't like typing the unlock password every reboot, you can use tpm to unlock - yes, this is less secure than requiring the unlock password every time you reboot, but LUKS + TPM unlock is still MUCH better than an unencrypted drive just sitting there
  • sbctl is a good tool for secure boot - If you want to get more secure, locking down bios with an admin password, turning on secure boot, sbctl works really well and is pretty easy to use. I would suggest reading up to understand what it's doing before just installing/configuring/using it
  • yay is a solid AUR helper / pacman wrapper
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

archinstall is still unstable as hell. I find that my best bet is to:

  1. Configure everything exactly like I want through the dialog
  2. Save the user and system preferences to their respective JSONs
  3. Mount a USB stick and copy the JSONs there
  4. Restart the archinstall process by loading from the JSONs, then hit commit
  5. When the above fails, restart the whole machine and jump to step 4, where it magically works
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Ah, good to know. I haven't really used that save configuration and reuse process, I just do the install directly at the end of configuring everything. But I can see the draw for using that, a shame it doesn't seem to work that well.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Start from the install guide on the wiki. It'll branch out fast and just follow all the links and read. If something goes wrong, check if you missed something on the wiki. It's an amazing resource.

Also, look up your hardware on the wiki before you start.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I didn't read the documentation so I didn't know you weren't supposed to use sudo with yay.

-Ss can be added to pacman to search for packages. Pretty useful if you don't want to DuckDuckGo them every time.

As for applications one neat one I don't see recommended very often is xkill. You can use it to kill applications kind of like you would with the task manager in Windows. htop is probably a closer comparison to the task manager in general though.

There are a lot of Arch-based distros that are incredibly easy to install if you want a very easy setup process that doesn't involve a lot of terminal work.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i thought yay told you to not run it with sudo?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

It does. It gives you this message

-> Avoid running yay as root/sudo.

I only ran Debian and Ubuntu based distros up until that point so I thought you always needed to install packages using sudo.

I am pretty sure I ignored the warning initially because the first couple packages I tried to install with sudo and yay worked.

This was a while ago.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I wish I knew then that debbie does the trick for me

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Those who are (wisely) suggesting snapshots, do you guys use a different partitions for data and OS? Because if you do revert to an older snapshot after a while, you'd loose new data, too (unless you recover it from current state)?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

archinstall's default btrfs layout has I think 4-5 separate subvolumes (I'm not running btrfs anymore so can't check) but at the very least I remember it has:

  • /
  • /var
  • /home

being separate subvolumes and mountpoints, you can just use a previous snapshot from 1 without rolling back others

Related to the snapshotting stuff, timeshift-autosnap is pretty helpful, hooks into pacman and takes a snapshot before installing/updating packages.

Personally I found btrfs and the snapshots helpful when starting to use arch, but now that I know how not to blow things up, it has been stable enough for me I just felt ext4 was easier.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Use btrfs with snapshots. Verify you know how to boot into snapshot after a failed update and repair the system. This is the most important thing and lets you experiment much more freely.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Read https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/System_maintenance before you go your first pacman -Syu

And when people tell you that you shouldn't use aur helpers like yay to blindly install/upgrade aur packages, there's a reason for it. Read the PKGBUILDs.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've been using Arch off and on for a long time, since it was horrible to install and updates did often break stuff. This is not the case now 🖖, and the Arch wiki is your friend.

  1. Consider using btrfs with automated snapshots using yabsnap. It includes a configurable pacman hook in case something goes awry. Also just nice to have snapshots in case you accidentally delete a file or something.

  2. Use paru, an AUR helper. Good for random things which may not be officially packaged. Expect to run into failures, and learn to diagnose them. Sometimes it's just a new dependency the packager missed. For both paru and pacman, clean the cache once in a while or automatically, or things will get out of hand.

  3. Do the "manual" setup, at least the first time, so you have an idea what's going on. Don't forget to install essential stuff like iwd (if needed) when you do pacstrap, or else you might have to boot from live again to fix it. Once you're done, take care to follow the important post install steps, like setting up a user with sudo, a firewall, sshd, etc.

As for general setup, I've recently embraced systemd-networkd and systemd-resolved. Might be worth giving it a shot, since there is no default network manager like application. You can even convert all your wireguard client configs into networkd interfaces.

Best practice: Keep a personal log of various tweaks and things you've configured, and set up automated backups (more of general guidance).

Have fun!

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Make sure you put "by the way I use arch" at the end of all your posts

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

And the neofetch print out

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Make backups of your important files, or use a separate home partition. When I used arch, more than once I had a bricked install after doing updates. The last straw for me was when after updating my network completely went out. I switched to fedora and haven't had issues for 2+ years. Also, (this goes for every distro, but more so arch than others) NEVER update if you don't have at least some time in front of you in case something happens. Arch was definitely a good learning experience and it was fun at first tweaking everything, but the drawbacks in stability got a bit old after a while. The AUR is a godsend and it's the best thing ever, you should also be using an AUR helper like Yay to make your life easier.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)
  • ALWAYS avoid partial upgrades, lest you end up bricking your system: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/System_maintenance#Partial_upgrades_are_unsupported
  • The Arch Wiki is your best friend. You can also use it offline, take a look at wikiman: https://github.com/filiparag/wikiman
  • It doesn't hurt to have the LTS kernel installed as a backup option (assuming you use the standard kernel as your chosen default) in case you update to a newer kernel version and a driver here or there breaks. It's happened to me on Arch a few times. One of them completely borked my internet connection, the other one would freeze any game I played via WINE/Proton because I didn't have resize BAR enabled in the BIOS. Sometimes switching to the LTS kernel can get around these temporary hiccups, at least until the maintainers fix those issues in the next kernel version.
  • The AUR is not vetted as much as the main package repositories, as it's mostly community-made packages. Don't install AUR packages you don't 100% trust. Always check the PKGBUILD if you're paranoid.
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

It doesn’t hurt to have the LTS kernel installed as a backup option (assuming you use the standard kernel as your chosen default) in case you update to a newer kernel version and a driver here or there breaks.

I had a similar issue that was resolved by swapping to the LTS kernel. Learning about using a bootable Arch USB and chrooting into your install to make repairs would be a good thing for OP to know

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