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[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 days ago (5 children)

What annoys me is that people are buying the idea that BlueSky is federated.

Not only is it not federated, the very architecture they designed means that it's probably not federateable, at least not by normal users.

The way they designed it, a relay is required to collect and forward every single BlueSky post. That means, as the service grows, it becomes more and more impossible for anybody but a company to run a relay. Someone did some calculations back in November when it was a significantly smaller network, and they calculated that at a minimum it costs a few hundred dollars, possibly as much as 1000 bucks a month just to handle the disk storage needs for a relay on a leased server. The more the network grows, the more those costs skyrocket.

What good does it do to have a network that theoretically can be federated, but practically costs so much to run a single node that nobody except a for-profit company can manage it?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm not familiar with Blue sky, do they advertise as federated or how exactly do they claim to differ from a regular platform like original Twitter?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Weird, I had a bluesky add-on on my experimental friendica installation and have not noticed any messages other than the ones people I followed participated in.

I have since deleted it, so cannot figure out what they have done differently.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Sounds like the protocol equivalent of regulatory capture.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I guess it could allow multiple funding models. Instance A is ad supported, instance B is a paid service. Not exciting for us self hosters, but there is possibility there.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Try hosting your own instance and sorting through the content of 30m people for the one post you want. lol

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is so true. It costs more money for the server power required for something like that to be pulled off.

There's a comment in this thread going all crazy complaining about it being costly to host anything on the protocol to stop Bluesky from dominating it and everything. But im like "uhh yeah, servers and storage costs money".

It's just so weird how everyone thinks hosting popular sites should be free.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago (5 children)

another trash platform its just matter of a time, use mastodon and fediverse to don't migrate again in few years

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Mastodon and the fediverse are nerd shit with massive usability issues. Even I gave up on Mastodon and I would consider myself far more willing to put up with shit than the average user will ever be. The mass will - never - migrate to the fediverse and in many ways, especially looking at moderation issues, that is probably a good thing.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

This is the saddest, most insular cope I've read all day.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Does it have anything to do with crypto and decentralisation? I heard it did but it doesn't seem like it does at all. Disappointing

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Federation is too confusing for the average bear. the success of bsky is the best thing for getting people off twitter

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And how many users does Mastodon have?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

About a million active users each month

Edit: Damn, 10 million users, see other comment. My source was this, the one from the other comment is certainly more trustworthy https://adamconnell.me/social-media-platforms/#%3A%7E%3Atext=larger+social+network.-%2CStats%3A%2Cat+the+end+of+2022

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

which is less than bsky, but more than lemmy.

I think a lot of people get sucked into the idea that more is better. But that isn't necessarily the case. I don't think any of us really want to talk to a million different people anyway. We just want to talk to a suitable subset.

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