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This is just peak enshittification at this point.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Umm...not enshittification. Plenty of reasons to hate on Nvidia this is not one of them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

I used to have the "Founders Edition" subscription tier from when GeForce Now was introduced. It was like 25$/quarter and a limited time offer for the first subscribers of GeForce Now. It was on par with the premium tier (best servers, no time limit, and best quality + ray tracing). Of course, over the years, it got degraded to second best servers, 6 hour session limit, max. 1080p and so on ... Then I quit.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Can't you just run a different driver or are all Nvidias bricks now?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

These ads are for their game streaming service, not GPU drivers

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

matter of time before they put ads in the paid tier too.

subscriptions suck.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We're talking about a gaming streaming platform. How do you think that concept could ever work without a subscription?

And frankly, adds for the free users really isn't that outrageous or surprising either. I'm mostly surprised that this wasn't the case from the start.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

this is not what im saying though.

i said this will be the first point of enshittification on the paid plan, exactly like on movie streaming platforms.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh well sorry that I took your "subscriptions suck" literally. I guess what that meant to say was "subscriptions with adds before them suck". My fault for not figuring this out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

all subscriptions eventually do price hikes and ads.

subscriptions do suck.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And yet they are pretty much non avoidable for certain services. And some of those services are really neat.

My library subscription for example certainly is worth it. So is my public transportation subscription.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

neither of those need to be a subscription, but rather a pay as you go model that isnt overpriced.

subscriptions are almost always designed to take MORE money longterm or else they wouldnt be pushing them so hard, on most cases its unavoidable because of how they push it onto us.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 6 months ago (3 children)

So much of the internet is enshittifying abuse of this moronic term enshittify.

It's fucking free. Youtube had ads before FREE videos forever ago. This isn't new. This isn't enshittifying. What an idiotic post.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Isn't GeForce Now only available if you buy an Nvidia graphics card? In that case I would consider it part of the product that was sold, not a free software

Ignore my comment, GeForce experience is what I was thinking of.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They did remove GameStream though, which was GFNow but for using from your PC. Or rather GFNow was GameStream but from their PC.

And they took that out, so you couldn't stream locally any more. And not enough people called them out for that.

You can replace it with Sunshine and Moonlight if you ever find yourself wondering why an nVidia Shield won't connect to your PC.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean sunshine is the same thing as game stream, but better. It uses the same protocol and is much more stable for me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Yes, but it still sucks that they took out their own implementation, especially when the main selling point of the Shield was streaming games from your PC is decent quality.

It did have a major flaw though, in that it always picked the leftmost monitor, and that's not what I game on.

Steam Link is clearly a whole lot more joined up in terms of being able to browse and start games, but I've never got that to work acceptably either. Runs at about half the framerate of Sunshine, for no reason I can see. No amount of messing with the settings appears to fix it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

I agree with everything you're saying but also fuck Nvidia.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The enshitification discourse on lemmy is fucking nuts. Service goes from you getting a gaming PC completely free, no strings attached except your play session is limited to hour, to the same thing but you see preroll ads while you queue. Any person with more than two braincells could tell it was meant to be a trial for the paid service, but of course people on here are gonna cry because they don't get free toys anymore.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's not the point I was making in the post. I was just showing what was happening with it. I've also been a paid subscriber to it on and off; my gripe with it is that it already takes about 5 to 10 minutes to queue into the service (Priority queue for paying ofc), but with this new system it will only start to add you to the queue after you watch the pre-rolls. If it played them while you were stuck in queue, that'd be no big issue to me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

starting March 5, 2024, members will experience up to two minutes of video sponsorship messages before each free gaming session while in queue.

I take that to mean that they are playing the ads while you're already in que waiting for your session

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ah shit, my reading literacy is terrible. Sorry about that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Happens to the best of us 👍

[–] [email protected] 63 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is just peak enshittification at this point.

It's a free service, and a game streaming one at that...
I'm the last person to be defending companies but this one really doesn't sound unreasonable

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wait, can I game on my old laptop?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Yeah, as long as it can run a modern version of Chrome and can decode video fast enough.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I got an email about that too.

Not sure why because I don't think I ever got it to work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

It depends on your system, but there's a desktop and mobile app as well as an unofficial app for Linux.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Fuuuuuck cloud gaming

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

I wanted to try free tier, but amount of time spending to wait in line to play a game was too much.add in that it was laggy and you can't just leave and come back. Now they will get free ad space for people who didn't even try service yet due... Amount of wait time in line. But speaking as someone who is redirected to Russian servers by default (too small country to have local server of course). Wonder how free tier experience for others in "good" countries.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I never really got this service, you got to rent hardware but then devs and publishers could tell nvidia that I can't use my rented hardware to play my bought games?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's a far cry better than Google or Amazon making you buy the game on their service specifically.

It's still cloud gaming. So it still sucks. But at least they're not trying to force you into a shitty locked in storefront. (Though not keeping your Steam login is definitely a pain point.)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I only went to GfN because Stadia shut down; I think Stadia did it the best way that you probably could tbh.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

No they didn't.

"You have to rebuy your games, that you can't play anywhere else" isn't just "not the best way". It's straight up horseshit with no possible way to be valid. It's also the biggest reason it tanked.

The only thing about stadia that was in any way redeemable was the fact that they didn't mess around and gave full refunds for any game purchase.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

I think that's just a concession from Nvidia, and they wouldn't really have to pull any games from the service.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I didn't even know they had a free teir. I could a been playing Fortnite this whole time

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Xbox Gaming Pass allows you to play Fortnite for free too. If you have a Samsung TV it's even easier, just plug the controller on the TV.

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