SneerClub
Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.
AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)
This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.
[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]
At least one fellow on Twitter painting us as Zizians.
lol. link?
Here's one that an xcancel search turned up (warning: is in Andy Ngo's replies)
thats the one! doesn't look like a rat either.
Given the ... calibre of thinking on display in his other tweets (xharts?), I wouldn't be surprised if he just typed "Zizians" into Reddit's search box; /r/sneerclub currently comes up a few times near the top of results there.
second warning: an xcancel search for "zizians" turns up so much transphobia that you'll feel like it's a late night on the Nebuchadnezzar and Tank accidentally loaded your brain with JK Rowling instead of kung fu.
cw: body horror
e: and now my brain is writing the matrix horror fan fiction where Jk Rowling gets Agent Smithed into someone’s brain and overwrites everything
Demonstrating once again that Twitter is the damp locker-room floor of ideas.
I think its deliberate badjacketing.
that seems about right, and “this anti-cult information source isn’t actually anti-cult, it’s a competing cult you should avoid” is a pretty common form it can take. it’s very convenient for the cultists, because it defuses criticism without engaging with it, by keeping all thought within the framework of the cult. the idea that we all organically stumbled upon Rationalist ideas (or were exposed to them through our friends or industry) and wholesale rejected them, must be eliminated as a possibility. we must have an ulterior motive that can’t be summed up as “hahaha holy shit look at these assholes” — or else the cult has to accept that a lot of people legitimately hold the idea that Rationalists and Zizians and all of Yud’s other ideological children are in fact fucking assholes.
It's true: The sneerclub mod interface is a replica of the mummification machine from Young Sherlock Holmes, and when we ban people, we actually drown them in wax.
It only works with the chanting, of course.
this is a nice writeup of the story of Ziz
Footnote 1: As a consequence of this approach to thinking and life, rationalists are, as a rule, unbelievably prolix, wall-eyed, and tedious writers, and also polyamorous.
"Wall-eyed" hit me as odd, so I go to look it up: https://www.wordnik.com/words/walleyed
The first entry:
adjective Often Offensive Affected with exotropia.
Well-played, Max!
I'm glad the non sanitized details are making it out.
fwiw, this /r/slatestarcodex poster says that Ziz of the Zizians did indeed take her name from Worm the web serial
“indirect personal communication”
You know I was wondering about where the name came from and it's sufficiently plausible that I believe it. Notably in the story her threat - the reason just being around her is so dangerous - is because she has some kind of perfect predictive ability on top of all the giant psychic kaiju nonsense. So she attacks a city and finds the one woman who needs to die in order for her super-thinker husband to go mad and build an army of evil robots or whatever.
It very much rhymes with the Rationalist image of a malevolent superintelligence and I can definitely understand it being popular in those circles, especially the "I'm too edgy to recognize that Taylor is wrong, actually" parts of the readership.