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When the school shootings 100% stop and the bullying dealt with sure I'm willing to revisit this but not a chance in hell am I sending my kid to school without a way to reach me.
I like the idea of the cell phone cubby. It's there if an emergency arises, but out of reach otherwise. It's a good solid middle ground.
Why were tamagotchis and gameboys and cellphones banned in class when I was growing up but not these days?
What I love is how kids scream that they need their phones in case of emergencies, but are actually using them to text and watch Netflix. OK here comes the "when I was a kid this is how things were" speech - but when I was a kid, we got by just fine knowing if we needed a phone there was an office nearby. Of course that was in the stone ages before cell phones and hula hoops and frisbees and all these other modern doodads.
When I was a kid school shootings were just becoming a thing and we didn't have cell phones. I think parents will prefer to have them as long as the shooting situation continues. It's the only way you would have direct contact with your kid in that situation. If we had it back in my day my parents would have sent me with a phone. When I got to highschool phones became more available and they got me one.
If it was the kids screaming they would be totally ignored. It's the parents that get pissed off when their kids aren't instantly texting them back.
That would have seriously fucked me up as a kid.
When I was a kid, Columbine made national headlines for years. Now we have a school shooting almost every day.
When I was a kid, textbook rental at my public school in my senior year of high school cost more than any given semester of college tuition for either of my parents.
It's easy to look back and think you've seen this all before, but you never step foot in the same river twice and this one's a lot deeper and wider than the one you used to wade in.
There are a lot of things to consider here. The world has changed.
Kids have legitimate reasons for having a cell phone today. It makes it infinitely easier to coordinate pickups, care of siblings, emergencies, job scheduling, etc. it shouldn't be used during class, but ae a parent i have enough legit reasons i want my daughter to have her phone on her and as long as its not being used during class, then the school can fuck right off. Ill decide whats best for my child. If she uses it during class, give her detention or whatever. Or tell me and ill handle itat home.
Beyond that, i dont want a teacher confiscating a device that costs several hundred dollars. That would lead to teachers or admins mysteriously "losing" the phone, only for it to show up on eBay.
There have also heen numerous high profile incidents of the bad behavior of teachers, students, and security personnel. I kinda like the idea of kids being able to not only defend themselves but also provide evidence to authorities that would probably have not believed them otherwise.
Today, phones are a ubiquitous paret of everyone's lives. Schools are better off trying to figure out how to integrate the technology into their lessons instead of a futile war against them.
I'm pretty sure the issue being discussed is the usage of phones during class time. Literally, it's in the blurb. You didn't even have to click on the article.
It never ceased to amaze me on reddit how people would have such strong opinions on an article that they obviously didn't even read because they had basic facts incorrect.
But, man, Lemmy has made that look like childs play, considering the inclusion of the blurb, which is basically like a comment, and people will still upvote comments that get basic facts included in the blurb wrong.
That's true the world has changed and we're much more an interconnected and online society than before. And a case can be made that phones have good uses as you point out.
But, coordinating pickups and job scheduling and such still shouldn't be done during class time. The problem here is that kids are allowing themselves to be distracted by their phones, and are using them in harmful ways - I've seen it myself, my neices and nephews talking about sex pictures they have been sent by their classmates during school hours.
I think phones and laptops definitely belong in modern schoolrooms but they do need to be regulated in some way. Kids are not as well-heeled as adults are and don't see the dangers.