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I've been a book reader for a long time, but never got into eBooks. I want to try it out next, but don't want to use any privacy vilotating devices or software. So, those "10 best" lists I found while searching are out, all of the Amazon crap is out.

What's left? What's a good device to buy so I can self-host my own eBook library and get into eReading. I would prefer suggestions for devices which just read books and comics and such. I don't need access to the app stores on it, I think.

Thanks for any ideas.

ETA: I have a Linux PC and an Android phone, if those things matter.

ETA2: Thank you all for these replies. You've given me a lot to think about and I appreciate the help!

LAST EDIT: Getting a Kobo Clara Color, 6" eInk dealie-bob! Thanks y'all. Don't let this stop you from posting your suggestions still. Posts like these help many over time. Y'all rock!

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I read on my phone amoled display in dark mode with the app Cool Reader.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Same here with librera

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I was on the same journey as you a month or so back and luckily the PineNote just got a second batch produced.

I wrote down some of my thoughts here, maybe that helps: https://domistyle.gitlab.io/pinenote-2024/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You page loads up then it goes away. Not sure what’s up. Maybe it’s my ad blockers. Who knows.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I read your blog post. I was interested until I saw the price on the EU store :(

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I ordered from the global store and paid 530€. Still expensive of course and it comes without warranty but it is cheaper and in stock.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I have a Remarkable Paper Pro that I love for graphic novels, aside of its hand-writting capabilities. It's also good for reading books, but the size is a bit too big to carry it without a bag or when out and about. Ideally, I'd like something like the Boox Palma 2, but not sure if I can justify the price + Pen having already another eNotebook.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Instead of self-hosting, I have a device that can hold a large amount of sideloaded material and sync between my PC and device with syncthing. Boox devices work well for this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

there's the pineNote but its a bit pricy

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Kobo is the answer. It used to require some finicking to get it so you didn't have to sign up with Walmart, but now that's supposedly no longer an issue (I've had my Kobo for a long time). Install Calibre and the Kobo extension for Calibre. You now can borrow epubs from your local library, purchase them from your favorite online ebook store, or sail the high seas if you don't give a fuck.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

...and then my Kobo Clara briked itself into a bootloop after i connected it to WiFi.
Also beware how you buy ebooks from kobo's store or you won't be able to un-drm them (i.e. they get locked to the kobo).
All in all they do tend to be nice hardware and my usual recommendation.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I use my (likely knockoff) Kobo that I got cheap from a shady online shop. Adding EPUBs is so damn easy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I have had the same Tolino Shine for... 10 years now? It recently broke down and I will definitely get the new Shine at some point. You can put books on it yourself via usb and basically never need to connect to the internet if you don't want to. Unsure tho if it is available outside of Germany/EU.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I use a Kobo Libra 2 and it's been great

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I use a boox leaf 2, it has android without google play services OOTB, you can install that if you want and you can side load apps like normal android too. It has a nice crisp screen, adjustable backlight (color and intensity) micro SD slot in addition to the 32gb internal storage. It will open pretty much any eBook format out there, and you can also use kindle app and adobe digital editions for DRM books (if you don't strip the DRM)

I highly recommend it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Pocketbook devices mostly run on Linux, except for a few android models. I have the Pocketbook Basic Lux, and I side load manga onto a SD card for it. It has a bookstore that can be entirely ignored, and you can use it without ever connecting wifi. I use Kindle Comic Converter to resize all my manga to the same resolution of the screen to prevent artifacts when the software downscales the images, as well as significantly reducing file size. It has a very simple menu and does not come with any bloatware or unnecessary additions. It is simply an eReader.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I just got the Dandadan opening out of my head, now it's back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4na2opArGY

How's the manga?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

It seems they took some liberties to do more cool action scenes that weren't in the manga. Otherwise it seems almost the same content-wise so far. I like the way Momo looks in the manga; she seems more lighthearted at times.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

+1 for Pocketbook

Never had any issues with it whatsoever.

The device works great with Calibre.

There is some other functionality that I did not use.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I use a Boox Note, and I like it a lot. Its an android based eBook reader so you have full access to android apps including side loading apps from other stores.

By default it does not have Google services set up but you can use the Play store should you want. But its not integrated to googles services. Obviously there is some integration to Onyx Boox services which is based in China. However infindnit is unobstrusive and you dont have to use their store or any of their tools.

Personally I use Calibre on my Linux PC to manage my books on the device, and I use fbreader as a reader (closed source) but you can install open source software if thats your preference. KOReader certainly works but I'm not a big fan of the interface personally.

I use ebooks.com to buy books (and calibre to remove DRM so I can use my preferred software), and you can install the Kindle app to access a kindle library if you haven't liberated your books yet. Ebooks reader works on the device too. Obviously DRM free books from any source and format can also be used.

My device - the note - has an nice crisp screen, is well made with a nice aluminium chassie and is comfortable to hold. I read books in portrait mode so you have 2 pages visible at a time. Its also good for a4 size documents. They do also have smaller sizes that match a kindle paper white.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Buy a Kobo, never connect it to WiFi. Or flash KOReader on it. Either way much better than the alternatives.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have a Clara 2E. It was some time ago, so I cannot remember all the fine details, but I couldn't get mine to start without some internet connection. I gave a throwaway email and allowed it to update before I switched off WiFi and could freely move books with Calibre.

To it's credit, in 3 years since purchase it has not asked for internet since switching it on the first time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Got a libre2 recently as a gift. My first ereader. I was able to plug it into the PC. Change a line of code and reboot.

Thst made the email prompt go away.

Then installed koreader and syncthing on it. I DL books on Android and it syncs over to Kobo. I can even read via koreader app on andrpid and it syncs progression.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What is the reason not to connect it to the WiFi ?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

If one doesn't want telemetry etc being sent to Rakuten.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I recently got a Boox Go 6. It's just a really simple android tablet with a paper type display. So whatever android reading app you use you could probably run it. Strictly in terms of privacy I'm not sure if it's uniquely well suited. But I would expect it's better than Kindle or Kobo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I only trust my ebook because I never connect it to the internet)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In theory the boox only has wifi. Presumably you could never connect it to anything, even by usb, if you loaded your books onto an sd card.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To my knowledge, they don't have SD cards - but indeed, you could just load books by wire.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

used kindle paperwhite, check firmware version to ensure jailbreak

jailbreak, install koreader

use calibre to manage library, source books from uh. the seas

amazon devices have quite good screens for the price

however, if you are reading comics, you should get a bigger screen probably a tablet, look into boox and meebook, both are android based

i would not recommend color screens rn, they still have significantly lower contrast and resolution and refresh is slow af

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have an old Kindle Paperwhite. I put use Calibre and USB to manage the library, no Amazon connection necessary. Works great.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah with ebook readers the actual device doesn't really matter as long as you use calibre. I also use the same kindle and honestly I'm not even sure if it has wifi. Maybe. Probably. But it never gets used.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Used to have Paperwhite. Upgraded to Kindle Oasis a few years ago. No regrets.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think the person asked for e-ink device recommendations. Reading on an Android vs e-ink screen makes such a huge difference

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

There is no mention of e-ink, OP has an Android device, I have an Android device, I read eBooks on it daily, I use FBReader. I'm not sure what all the kerfuffle is about.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

If they wanted to read on a phone/Normal display, they wouldn’t have asked for recommendations.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Kobo. Simple as that. 😊

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is rakuten more private? I only know them for the smart tv app.

Whats the experience like for buying ebooks with a kobo? Is it easy to do, are there lots of books, are there lots of ads?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Just don’t connect it to a network. Calibre to manage your library, transfer books via USB, done. Kobo+Calibre works fine on Linux.

However, in rare cases Kobo devices can be a bit funny with displaying covers properly without internet access to fetch/correct them “automatically”. This is not privacy friendly, obviously.

YMMV with this issue, but regardless if you choose a Kobo or not, I’ll drop some handy tips for you below just in case you care to polish your experience via Calibre.

I can’t give credit for below cause this is copied from my notes and I don’t know the author/source. Enjoy.


Calibre is so powerful and customizable that it has a bewildering amount of options and ways to do things. I wanted to scrape good metadata and covers for my ebook library in the simplest way I could. Here's my procedure:

PREPARING THE MEDATA SOURCES (This only needs to be done once)

  1. Go to Preferences -> Get plugins to enhance Calibre -> find and install the 'Kindle hi-res covers' and 'Goodreads' plugins. Reboot Calibre.

  2. With your library open in Calibre, choose a selection of ebooks -> Ctrl+D to download metadata and covers -> configure download.

  3. On the lower right hand side, I set 'Max. number of tags to download:' at 4. This is personal preference.

  4. The only sources to have check marks (with their corresponding cover priority) should be:

    • Goodreads: 3

      • almost always has the best metadata, and is best for tags, which I limit to 4
    • Google Images: 2

      • While selected: Configure selected source -> [Choose your preferred cover size and max number of covers to retrieve - I up it to 10]

      • If you end up choosing the covers individually Google often has good covers the other sources don't

    • Kindle hi-res covers: 1

      • It usually has the best covers but can be a pain because it often picks a foreign cover and you have to go choose the cover individually afterwards.

      • I change the maximum number of covers to get from 5 to 10, but that's not necessary.

PREPARING THE EBOOKS FOR SCRAPING COVERS AND METADATA

I clear all the 'Rating', Tags' and 'Series' fields because the data may be from all over the place (tags are often particularly awful), but Goodreads metadata will standardize it (as far as it can be for my liking, anyway - they seem to have a finite and well-ordered number of tags unlike many other sources). You can clear other fields but I only do those three.

  1. Select your books -> Right-click -> Edit metadata -> Edit metadata in bulk

  2. For 'Rating:' select 'Not rated' from the dropdown and then check 'Apply rating' on the right

  3. Also on the right side, check 'Remove all' on the 'Remove tags:' row and 'Clear series' below it.

TO GET COVERS

  1. Select the ebooks you want to scrape and press Ctrl+D -> Download only covers.

    • If I choose 'Download both' I usually have to reject many because the cover is foreign or something, and then I end up scraping the metadata separately anyway.
  2. When the job is done -> Review downloaded metadata -> Check 'Mark rejected books' (this option will stay selected in the future) then go through the books, pressing 'Reject' for any books that don't have a satisfactory cover.

  3. After finishing the selections, the marked books will show. Select them all -> Right click - > select 'Edit metadata individually'

  4. Press 'Download cover', select a cover, and press 'Next' until finished

  5. Select all the rejected books and press Ctrl-M to toggle the marked (pinned) status to off

    • I put the 'Mark books' icon in the main toolbar with Preferences -> Toolbars & menus -> select 'The main toolbar' from the dropdown and move the 'Mark books' icon to the column on the right
  6. Press the X at the end of the search bar to clear the selection and get back to the main book list.

    • If you don't see the search bar add it by pressing 'Layout' at the bottom right and toggling 'Search bar' to 'Show'.

Rather than using the above steps, if I have some free time I like to select ALL the covers manually, because it can be fun to look at the different choices. Sometimes I'll pick a foreign cover because the art is better. (Also many of the larger covers - especially from Kindle hi-res - are actually much blurrier than some smaller choices and you can't tell from the thumbnails so I like to right-click and compare them at full size) To do it this way, instead of doing step 1 above:

  1. Select the ebooks you want to scrape -> Right-click -> Edit metadata -> Edit metadata individually

  2. Do Step 4. That will be the last step

TO GET METADATA

  1. Select the books you want to scrape and press Ctrl+D -> Download only metadata.

  2. When the job is done -> 'Review downloaded metadata' OR 'Yes'

    • If I DO review the metadata, I usually only check the comments, because I can usually trust the metadata from GoodReads
  3. OPTIONAL: If any of the metadata you reviewed is unsatisfactory, 'Reject' it when reviewing, then do step 3 from the 'TO GET COVERS' section, then go to step 4 but select 'Download Metadata' instead of cover and follow the instructions from there.

You should now be finished selecting metadata for your selected books!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Thanks, very detailed. I was looking to get my mum, whos not tech literate at all, off the kindle; have seen she could get ebooks at a library with the kobo (uk). But with this info I think I might want one for myself too to use offline as described

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No ads. Easy to buy. It you're really concerned about privacy, just flash KOReader on it which is an alternative backend. The easier alternative is to never connect to the WiFi and manually transfer ePubs to the device through Calibre.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I got a Kobo and just use the networking to sync Pocket articles. Stock system.

I don’t even think an account is available in my country. Just been syncing over Calibre. It’s not perfect (it uses a community plugin) but once you get the quirks of the Calibre-to-Kobo transfer it’s easy enough.

Now the hard part. Actually reading.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Lol. An e-Reader was actually one of the best purchases I've done. Started reading waaaay more than before. Also great that one can start digesting all those old out-of-copyright ebooks from like standardebooks.org, on a screen that resembles paper. I can never read a book on an ordinary screen.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thank you. Ive read that you can get ebooks from puplic libraries in uk with kobo but not kindle. Looking at getting one for my mum. Shes not tech literate, she can buy and read an ebook but shes always accidentally subscribing to amazon subscriptions on the kindle

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah if the library supports Overdrive, it's possible. I've used it and it seemed to work fine.

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