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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

The same thing happens with webkit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Please don't post pictures of text without transcribing the words

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sorry I'm blind, and I cannot see the image. Would you mind telling me what you posted?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

the title describes the screenshot entirely

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fuck blind people who need to google error messages, right?

/s

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Upper screen: [Twitch Logo] Login to Twitch

Box with error notice: Your browser is currently not supported. Please use a recommended browser or learn more here.

Then there is just a standard login form

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

Just a comment: IMO it's not worth using strong passwords on which you depend on privative/unknown security platforms. Who knows how many times they get hacked or have backdoors? Unless they specify they only store the hash I refuse to sacrifice one of my strong passwords.

Edit: To all talking about password managers. I don't believe in single point of failure as a way to go. The fact that i've to explain that xd...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Bro over here still using one of his "strong passwords" trying to give other people security advice 😅

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Genuinely terrible advice. Every popularly available password manager service hashes all your passwords, if they have a data breach they have extremely strict reporting compliance and the majority of services will re-hash all your passwords. If youre so extremely concerned about that, host your own.

But what concerns me the most is

Unless they specify they only store the hash I refuse to sacrifice one of my strong passwords.

... What to you mean sacrifice?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Keeping all on one password (password manager) is a single point of failure, which i don't like. I mean sacrifice because my brain can only remeber a few 512bytes long passwords (again i don't use password managers because of single point of failure).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Isn't your computer a single point of failure? A keylogger will get your password database or you manually entered passwords all the same.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Who says I have the same password for my root, my user account, and my LUKS encrypted hard drive? Losing one doesn't mean losing everything like in a Password manager.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Not that, I meant a keyloggers could get the password to your password database in the same way it could get any accounts you log into by typing your password into a browser.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Does your threat model involve The Mossad? There's no way on earth that you are genuinely remembering multiple 512 byte random passwords, let alone actually taking the time to type them in.

Having a password manager, with MFA, a strong master password, and rule based device verification is ultimately more secure as you can have every password be randomized.

Best practices are best practices for a reason. I recommend you follow them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Mossad or other agencies arent God. If my device is cryptographically secure and doesn't have backdoors it's unfeasible to access any data with current technology. I guess you are right if you take into account Intel management engine and similar, but since I use libreboot bios that does not apply to my computer (only place that I treat as secure).

If you use Apple, Microsoft, google, etc devices, those are 100% vulnerable even if you use idk rsa 2048 (xd). The problem is who you are trusting.

That's a good point. But, yeah again I don't fall in those categories. I try to ensure that my security is only based and covered behind cryptography theory and nothing else.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The point is that if someone really wants to get into your device, they will. It doesn't matter if youre using open source firmware, in a custom implementation of linux, on a MIPS CPU, and you personally build every package from source and complete a compliance code review before installing it, etc.etc.etc. If government agency x is targeting you specifically, your best line of security is to lock your device in a safe, take a boat into the middle of the ocean, and then dump it at an unrecorded location and never retrieve it.

A device is only secure as long as you are not using it, and it is not accessible physically, or by network.

You do you dude, I'm just saying your advice is awful for the average user.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Yeah, you are right. Anyways this always applies to anyone seeking security.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

You should use randomly generated passwords from a password manager, there is no short supply of strong random passwords.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Waste one of my 2272657884496751345355241563627544170162852933518655225856 possible 32 character passwords on Twitch! Outrageous! What if I run out?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Sacrifice? Tf you on about?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

That is definitely an autofilled one-off password from a password manager.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

You need to disable resist fingerprinting. It's annoying, but you can reenable it after you've logged in

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No, you need to email twitch that they have a bug.

And boycott them if they're intentionally trying to harm marginalized folks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm all for FOSS browsers, but how are Firefox users marginalized folks?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

The issue isn't Firefox. The issue is users who have privacy protections enabled. Marginalized folks need such protections to stay safe

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That's the solution if you immediately tried to login and it didn't work.

Twitch login has in general very misleading error messages. The exact same message with unsupported browser also appears if you take too long to login

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Firefox is actually one of the recommended browsers, if you were to click on that link. Twitch just has some issues sometimes

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Yup, I use Twitch all the time on Firefox (including yesterday), and with an ad-blocker as well.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Stop using recommended when you mean required FFS.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I had this come up when I was using a locked down version of FF.

Basically what happened was the security settings were not allowing Twitch the access it required.

Once I went through and allowed access it worked fine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

That is trending Firefox users find a site rejecting the browser 🤔

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Seems to be working OK for me on FF with Ublock and Privacy Badger running.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Differing experiences might mean that Twitch is performing A/B testing on blocking Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Usually it means that OP either uses a "hardened" fork, or did some messing around with about:config like resistFingerprinting, without understanding the ramnifications of such hardening on various web technologies that aren't primarily related to tracking/tracing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Now that is a long password lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Idk someone could probably brute force it in only a few trillion years, I'd make it longer if you plan to be using Twitch long-term.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You assume the person would never change the password. Someone with that long password is probably security concerned and is likely to change it after some time, even if its once in a year.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

NIST does not recommend changing passwords. Its usually a bad practice

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why is changing passwords bad practice? What is the reasoning behind this? Changing passwords is highly recommended. There are many reasons why one should do this. Found this article: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/why-passwords-must-periodically-changed-roger-grimes and don't agree. The argumentation seems like if you have to remember all passwords, but totally ignores password managers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

NIST used to tell orgs to require password rotation. Some years ago they changed their recommendation with an explanation that it adds not security benefits while it encourages users to write down or use shittier passwords.

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