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Is anyone actually surprised by this?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

you gotta think deep before you deep seek!

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did the American technology giants think they had the monopoly on capturing human input too?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My gym sock captures human input too.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s human output surely?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

I input it into the sock.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

No I’m not surprised at all. This is necessary for any kind of auto save and auto complete. Not happy about my shit being stored in China, but “collects every keystroke” isn’t really news anymore.

If you’re worried about this kind of behavior, don’t use any website with auto save or auto complete, period.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, uh... If you think that American companies aren't doing this same thing and handing your data over to the government without a warrant among other bad uses, I have some bad news for you. This is pretty much par for the course, and I'm pretty sure that we're witnessing a well financed negative media blitz happening to try and keep OpenAI from getting all of its spaghetti spilled. Watch for the government to try and ban deepseek for "national security" reasons soon.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

This is my total lack of surprise.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Oh yeah and ChatGPT doesn’t

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago

Chinese company uses servers located in China. More news at 11.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

This is why you run stuff locally or not at all.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I'm confused. Isn't "collecting keystroke data" just an alarmist way to describe text entry?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Maybe. They could also be doing things like paying attention to input cadence and typos/pre-send typo corrections to use as part of a fingerprint associated with the identifying information a user gives them when creating an account so that they can then attempt to detect the user elsewhere on the web whether they are using an identifying account or not.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

This argument applies to literally every single web app you use.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

this. i mean, the session logs for the prompt are kept at least for your user, right?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Isn't it open source? If so it should be near trivial to get rid of all of that.

If it's closed source I wouldn't touch it with a tej foot pole, it's the same reason I rarely use chat gpt, it's just freely giving away your personal data to open AI.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago (5 children)

It's a chinese company, where else would they store the data?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Antarctica, clearly.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I swear people do not understand how the internet works.

Anything you use on a remote server is going to be seen to some degree. They may or may not keep track of you, but you can't be surprised if they are. If you run the model locally, there is no indication it is sending anything anywhere. It runs using the same open source LLM tools that run all the other models you can run locally.

This is very much like someone doing surprised pikachu when they find out that facebook saves all the photos they upload to facebook or that gmail can read your email.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 2 days ago (3 children)

"We store the information we collect in secure servers located in the People's Republic of China"

Now you Americans know how we Europeans feel when Google, Amazon and Facebook store our information on American servers. Hint: The protective wall between Chinese servers and their government are about as good as the one between American servers and their government - at least for non-US citizens. The last thin veil of privacy for Eurpeans has been ripped to shreds by Trump last week.

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