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Is anyone actually surprised by this?

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago

Oh my, just wait until you learn what Facebook and Google do...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

The Chinese now have data on my Linux vm and my curiosity about sweet potato and sweet potato recipe. They’re coming for me now!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (7 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

By extension, anything that's not self hosted means 3rd party actors snooping. American, Chinese, whoever happens to operate that machine.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

So I won't use this for the same reason I don't use any AI? Cool

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the company states that it may share user information to "comply with applicable law, legal process, or government requests.

Literally every company's privacy policy here in the US basically just says that too.

Not only does DeepSeek collect "text or audio input, prompt, uploaded files, feedback, chat history, or other content that [the user] provide[s] to our model and Services," but it also collects information from your device, including "device model, operating system, keystroke patterns or rhythms, IP address, and system language."

Breaking news, company with chatbot you send messages to uses and stores the messages you send, and also does what practically every other app does for demographic statistics gathering and optimizations.

Companies with AI models like Google, Meta, and OpenAI collect similar troves of information, but their privacy policies do not mention collecting keystrokes. There's also the added issue that DeepSeek sends your user data straight to Chinese servers.

They didn't use the word keystrokes, therefore they don't collect them? Of course they collect keystrokes, how else would you type anything into these apps?

In DeepSeek's privacy policy, there's no mention of the security of its servers. There's nothing about whether data is encrypted, either stored or in transmission, and zero information about safeguards to prevent unauthorized access.

This is the only thing that seems disturbing to me, compared to what we'd like to expect based on the context of what DeepSeek is. Of course, this was proven recently in practice to be terrible policy, so I assume they might shore up their defenses a bit.

All the articles that talk about this as if it's some big revelation just boil down to "company does exactly what every other big tech company does in America, except in China"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Collecting keystrokes is very different from collecting text inputted into fields. Keystroke rhythms is even more alarming as that is often used to identify users despite them using privacy settings, or used to collect what’s typed via audio collection.

Your argument that this is no different than other apps is complete crap. Don’t trust any app that collects that information

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Idk DeepSeek probably just stores things in the history of my Terminal window.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did they become american company?

Well, at least models are downloadable.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Get it all you can, nvidia's already lobbying to make them a security risk, competition is bad for business.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago
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