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So I've been using Rustdesk with a self hosted server for business and personal use now for some time. However, it is definitely the sketchiest foss software I've used. It seems to be based in China but the developers keep lying and saying its in Singapore.

Here is a list if everything I've found:

https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/14kjvkg/community_consensus_on_rustdesk_with_all_the/

https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk/discussions/1159

https://www.reddit.com/r/rustdesk/comments/y230hf/my_rustdesk_client_try_to_communication_with/

https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/10ppntj/reminder_about_the_shadyness_of_rustdesk/

https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/109tn1i/rustdesk_server_117_supports_ipv6_now_selfhosted/j42pf4m/

https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/uurta8/_/

https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/y80sw1/as_someone_that_knows_nothing_about_virtualremote/isxvib2/

https://youtu.be/JIAdEGX_sIU

It seems that now the clients and OSS server are completely foss which is good. They also no longer have public servers in China according to them. In the client itself it also now has better defaults so you are less at risk of getting attacked.

It still is sketch but it now is slightly less sketch I guess? Either way its not ideal.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't touch it with a stick. The whole thing is just shady to say the least. Nothing trustworthy whatsoever.

MeshCentral needs to get better. We need it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Mesh central isn't a replacement as it solves different problems

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Aren't they both remote desktop apps?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Meshcentral allows a admin to control machines from a admin panel. Rustdesk allows for a person (doesn't need to be admin) to get into another machine if they are authenticated.

The authentication is the key. If you install the mesh agent on your machine you no longer control that device. It is effectively remote management.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

True, those are pretty different use cases.

Do you know of any RD app that works nice with Wayland and supports RD from the DE login screen?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What your asking for probably isn't going to be available as Wayland has stronger security restrictions. They only way I know of to do this would be to dump the display buffer continuously and then send inputs via udev. That would be problematic to do and I doubt if there is any software that can do it. If there is it would likely need to run as root.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Found this: https://www.phoronix.com/news/GNOME-RDP-Remote-Login

I believe I've read something similar for kwin, I'll update my post if I find it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I love it, it works. Running a server is super easy and the speed is quite nice for a free piece of software.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It has way better performance than TeamViewer and AnyDesk but is also as feature rich and can be self hosted, I love it!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Me too, I hope that they will become more transparent.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I’ve found using software meant for gaming often works better for this application. My personal choice is moonlight. I run it behind Tailscale so my connections never leave my devices. Even over cellular it’s snappy enough for non gaming tasks, and if I need to check on my dailies in a game or something similar, it handles that much better than any Remote Desktop product. I messed around with rust desk and could never get it quite working and didn’t feel comfortable using the public servers at the time. So I swapped to moonlight and it serves me well.

Games on Whales is a containerized version of moonlight that I struggled to get working as well, but I thinks that’s because I’m a docker beginner.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How did you get it to work without auto login?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

As of now I ran moonlight on Windows, so I might not be able to help a ton. I just started my own Arch (by the way) install that I plan to revisit getting moonlight running on, but I’m not even at a desktop environment yet.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Was using AnyDesk (until it went to shit), then Teamviewer (before they went to shit) and a ton of other VNC and remote desktop options, but did finally land on self-hosting RustDesk.

It's been VERY solid and reliable for me, but what you just brought up concerns me.

I checked my filter log (from Adguard on Windows) to see if Rustdesk is calling home, and I'm not seeing anything after multiple connections and several hours of use. I guess these things aren't a concern with the self-hosted deployment?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I never ran it since i got scared by the shit they done with 'wayland support' which smells like really bad code practices. Patch

But i still somewhat want to use it since it seems much less hassle then teamviewer and anydesk these days.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't believe it does that anymore and the flatpak never did that. On Reddit they did admit to it being a terrible design.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It does not matter to me if it is still there or not. The point that this was in a release makes me question their code and release practices.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Well, vote with your choices, I suppose.

I've seen enough poor practices go unacknowledged and buried, or simply forgotten (lemmy user count +1 is kindof a minor but hilarious 'fix' for divide-by-zero), that I just like or when an organization acknowledges it and makes a change. I don't need rustdesk, but I wouldn't mind using them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

They apologized and admitted that it was a dumb thing to do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I very much agree. I think it would be best to at least get some third party to verify releases. Maybe if it gets on Flathub that will happen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Do you have the same hangup of 7zip being from Russia?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Not really. Russia is problematic but not to the same extent. Also they are much more transparent and the 7-zip software doesn't require a server.

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