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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this.)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is from 2023 but when debugging an xfce issue this week I came across this forum post: https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=16835

The user is competent enough to use xfce with Debian, but too incompetent to understand debug symbols is not a violation of privacy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I get being privacy conscious and that sharing crash dumps and logs you don't really understand yourself can be scary. Making demands of urgent free tech support from strangers is just rude, though.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

This is a good article, thanks for posting.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Pouring one out for the local-news reporters who have to figure out what the fuck "timeless decision theory" could possibly mean.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (4 children)

They're probably talking about Ziz's group. The double homicide in Pennsylvania is likely the murder of Jamie Zajko's parents referenced in this LW post, and the Vallejo county homicide is the landlord they had a fatal altercation with and who was killed recently.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

That was my conclusion as well.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

excuse me, what the fuck is this

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Either Baader-Meinhoff or Manson family, not sure which.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also Andy Ngo has now picked this up and its being spun as a purely trans terror cell thing.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Live: Chinese AI bot DeepSeek sparks US market turmoil, wiping $500bn off major tech firm

Shares for leading US chip-maker Nvidia dropped more than 15% after the emergence of DeepSeek, a low-cost Chinese AI bot.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cjr85l2e4l4t

lmao

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Folks around here told me AI wasn't dangerous 😰 ; fellas I just witnessed a rogue Chinese AI do 1 trillion dollars of damage to the US stock market 😭 /s

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is it too early to hope that this is the beginning of the end of the bubble?

Also, does someone know why broadcom was also hit so hard? Is it because they make various networking-related chips used in datacenter infrastructure?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

When hedge funds decide to flip the switch on something the reaction never looks rational. Meta was green today ffs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Me: Oh boy, I can't wait to see what my favorite thinkers of the EA movement will come up with this week :)

Text from Geoff: "Morally stigmatize AI developers so they considered as socially repulsive as Nazi pedophiles. A mass campaign of moral stigmatization would be more effective than any amount of regulation. "

Another rationalist W: don't gather empirical evidence that AI will soon usurp / exterminate humanity. Instead as the chief authorities of morality, engage in societal blackmail to anyone who's ever heard the words TensorFlow.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

dude missed that Trump won and the people in power are Nazi pedophiles

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Next Sunday when I go to my EA priest's group home, I will admit to having invoked the chain rule to compute a gradient 1 trillion times since my last confessional. For this I will do penance for the 8 trillion future lives I have snuffed out and whose utility has been consumed by the basilisk.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Indulge yourself! Try an electric_monk o7 subscription today!

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Spotted in the Wild:

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Today on highlighting random rat posts from ACX:

poster thinks the future of llm training is contingent on focusing early on philosophical and theological text because they match the causality of human experience

(Current first post on today's SSC open thread)

On slightly more relevant news the main post is scoot asking if anyone can put him in contact with someone from a major news publication so he can pitch an op-ed by a notable ex-OpenAI researcher that will be ghost-written by him (meaning siskind) on the subject of how they (the ex researcher) opened a forecast market that predicts ASI by the end of Trump's term, so be on the lookout for that when it materializes I guess.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Does scoot actually know how computers work? Asking for a friend.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

scoot asking if anyone can put him in contact with someone from a major news publication

how about the New York Times

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

NYT and WaPo are his specific examples. He also wants a connection to "a policy/defense/intelligence/foreign affairs journal/magazine" if possible.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

well I guess the NYT is auditioning the Völkisher Beobachter rôle so that tracks

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I screenshot this the other day and forgot to post it. Well, enjoy.]

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

i wonder which endocrine systems are disrupted by not having your head sufficiently stuffed into a toilet before being old enough to type words into nazitter dot com

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In the process of looking for ways to link up with homeschool parents that aren't doing it for culty reasons, I accidentally discovered the existence of a small but active subreddit for "progressive monarchists". It's titled r/progressivemonarchists, because their imagination in naming conventions only slightly outatrips their imagination for forms of government. Given how our usual sneer fodder overlaps with nrx I figured there are others here who I can inflict this headache on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (3 children)

A silhouette of a nuclear family with their heads overlaid by the flags of Australia, Canada, the UK and New Zealand. Above them king Charles of Normal Island holding and umbrella, shielding them from rain labeled "Trumpism and far right ideology".

Quality shitpost, I could imagine some thirteen year old actually believing this.

Flags of Spain, the Netherlands, Liechtenstein, Denmark, Sweden, the UK, Norway, Andorra, Luxembourg and Belgium. Above the quote: "On the whole the European countries which have most successfully avoided Fascism have been constitutional monarchies" from George Orwell

Yea, no fascism whatsoever took place in the Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Luxembourg, or Belgium during WW2, in which they were all very successfully avoiding being occupied by fascists.

Extra points to Spain who already avoided succumbing to their own homegrown brand of fascism before the Nazi German invasion of Poland, and where they avoided having fascists in power all the way until the 1970s. There's a book I quite like about the war where that happened called Homage to Catalonia. I wonder if Orwell ever read it.

Missing from the list is Italy, which is no longer a constitutional monarchy, but used to be until 1946, which is why they were so good at avoiding fascism they even named it.

This might take the cake for the dumbest take I've seen from George Orwell and not for a lack of competition.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

is it a real quote from Orwell or just something someone made up?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Yeah then it is a shitty take.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Oh yeah Britain didn't become fascist, they just imposed brutal imperialist exploitation on colonies in Asia and Africa lol. It's not fascism if you export it!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fascism really is "we have imperialism at home"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

i would love to read someone more familiar with historical fascism and imperialism who is able to articulate the link between the two. like, an analysis of imperialism as the construction and maintenance of borders across which exploitation is enforced and economic value is extracted -- paired with the observation of fascism as the attempts to construct borders "across peoples" from within the imperial core

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

let's also not forget these very liberal and not at all nazi-collaborating kingdoms of Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, Thailand and Japan. honorable mentions to Cambodia that very successfully avoided Pol Pot and Iran that very successfully avoided islamic revolution

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

(Reposting from the last thread)

Days since last open source issue tracker pollution by annoying nerds: zero

My investigation tracked to you [Outlier.ai] as the source of problems - where your instructional videos are tricking people into creating those issues to - apparently train your AI.

I couldn’t locate these particular instructional videos, but from what I can gather outlier.ai farms out various “tasks” to internet gig workers as part of some sort of AI training scheme.

Bonus terribleness: one of the tasks a few months back was apparently to wear a head mounted camera “device” to record ones every waking moment

P.S. sorry for the linkedin link behind the mastodon link, but shared suffering and all that. I had to read "Uber for AI code data" so now you do too.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I had to read “Uber for AI code data” so now you do too.

Wow, what a fractal of cursed meaning. I don't even understand what it really means, but it feels like understanding it any further would cause considerable psychic damage.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Well I can't translate it but if you search for it... holy smokes are search engines amusingly bad at indexing federated content.

That random other Lemmy instance is actually doing the right thing here since it includes the right link rel canonical, so I guess Google just hasn't caught up yet or something. I have no idea why Google chopped off the last byte of the IP address.

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