Depending on when they put out the flames, it would be crueler to save them. I've read accounts of full body burns and this person will inevitably live out the rest of their days in complete agony, anesthetized into a zombie state and rendered incapable of putting out their own misery.
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I've never understood self immolation. I get that it's a very poignant political act meant to evoke change but has it ever? Why die so violently for something that may not change at all and not even get to see that change should it happen? I can understand maybe if you are already suicidal and you see this as a worthwhile use of your death, but otherwise? I don't understand
This one man has more courage than the entirety of western leadership. Unfortunately, this isn't effective because they don't have a conscience. I mean, what's one more burned person to the empire.
Not to be rude or disrespectful, but self-immolation hasnt worked once. You need an opposing party capable of feeling empathy
There were one or two times. Definitely never in America, though.
Now other immolation on the other hand...
“It is tragic to see the hate and incitement toward Israel expressed in such a horrific way,” she added.
If i were the protestor this burn would feel worse. The absolute depravity inside this woman to mischaracterize a sacrificial act above her comprehension. I hate her and wish her terrible pain.
I wouldn't reccomend this method of protest. Sacrificing your life for 5 minutes, at best, of news time isn't a good trade.
Even worse, it seems clear to me that news outlets squash stories of self immolation. They did the same with the 'activist' who did it on earth day a few years ago, and it wouldn't surprise me to find out that major media outlets have had the same mandate to hide these stories since vietnamese monks were doing it to protest the vietnam war.
The post on the Atlanta subreddit about this was deleted if you need any further confirmation of that belief
if you're going to sacrifice yourself atleast [REDACTED]
These type of protests have to be the stupidest, like if youre throwing your life away at least do something that does materially benefit whatever you are protesting.
It kicked off the protests in Tunisia that resulted in a radical restructuring of society, but the people of Tunisia were more empathetic to that action than Americans. So many people have absolutely dog shit takes about this act of protest, not the slightest amount of empathy for what would drive a person to this.
Respectfully, this type of thinking is beyond irritating. Do we not try and practice empathy here? Why not imagine the possibility that people can experience vastly different internal worlds than that of your own?
These acts have always seemed like a symptom of psychosis to me. I suspect these people likely planned to end their lives anyway, as an act of protest or not. :\
Edit: Apologies, didn't mean to be unempathetic. I just think it's tragic that world events have driven this much pain into person that they are driven to the point of ending their life.
Agree. Some traditions like buddhist or taoist view it as acceptable (though it's always the height of desperation and last method), and you will see it sporadically through the history in other places too.
Sometimes it even allegedly worked (like Hirate Masahide suicide in 1533), but this time it clearly did not: “It is tragic to see the hate and incitement toward Israel expressed in such a horrific way”
"It is tragic to see the hate and incitement toward Israel expressed in such a horrific way," she added.
I cannot fucking take it.
What is that, 3 now?
By what count? Self-immolation protests in the US? Protests about Israel?
The first one, I remember a couple being about climate change